Seattle City Council Housing, Health, Energy, and Workers’ Rights Committee 8/15/19

Seattle City Council Housing, Health, Energy, and Workers’ Rights Committee 8/15/19


>>>WILL GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 15, 2019. THE HOUSING, HEALTH, ENERGY AND WORKERS RIGHTS COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. I AM COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA. I WILL SOON BE JOINED BY OUR COUNCIL COLLEAGUES. COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ WHO IS USUALLY HERE IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW IS ON HER WAY AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF OTHER COLLEAGUES. WE DO HAVE TO PARTS OF OUR AGENDA, THE FIRST PART IS FOLKS MIGHT HAVE HEARD WILL BE DEVOTED TO ISSUES OUTSIDE OF THE HOTEL WORKERS SAFETY EDUCATION. THIS WOULD BE FOCUSED ON TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT EFFORTS. THE FIRST WILL BE THE SOLAR PROGRAM, WHICH WE ARE LAUNCHING TO ESTABLISH A LARGER COMMERCIAL PROGRAM IN THE CITY. AND THE BRIEFING AT POSSIBLE VOTE ON THE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT WESTERN ENERGY IMBALANCE AUTHORITY ORDINANCE RELATED TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT’S ABILITY OR AUTHORIZATION TO BECOME PART OF THE WESTERN ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET. BOTH OF THOSE HAVE POSSIBLE VOTE ON THEM. WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE TWO ITEMS FIRST. THE SECOND THING WE WILL DO IS TALK ABOUT THE HOTEL WORKER LEGISLATION. WE WILL DO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT SHOULD BEGIN APPROXIMATELY 10:00 IF WE COULD GET THROUGH THESE FIRST TWO ITEMS FASTER. WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER AND THEN WE WILL DEVOTE THE REST OF THE TIME TO THE HOTEL SAFETY LEGISLATION AND THE HEALTHCARE LEGISLATION. THOSE ARE TWO COMPONENTS IF YOU’RE FOLLOWING ALONG. THERE FOR PARTS OF THE HOTEL. PACKAGE. THIS IS PART ONE ON SAFETY AND PART THREE ON HEALTHCARE. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I SEE NONE. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ADOPT TODAY’S AGENDA. IT IS ADOPTED. WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC TESTIMONY JUST ON THE FIRST PART OF THE AGENDA. THOSE ARE RELATED TO OUR TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT RELATED EFFORTS AND WESTERN ENERGY IMBALANCE AUTHORITY ORDINANCE. I DO HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THAT SECTION. AS YOU, WHEN YOU SAW YOU SIGNED IN, IF YOU DIDN’T GET A CHANCE TO SIGN IN, THERE IS STILL TIME FOR THE HOTEL WORKER LEGISLATION. THE FIRST PERSON WILL BE JEREMY KELLER. YOU ARE WELCOME TO USE THAT MICROPHONE AS WELL. >>GOOD MORNING. >>LET ME MAKE SURE IT IS ON FOR YOU. >>GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. HELLO, I AM A PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ENGINEER WITH A COMPANY. FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO DEVELOP 800 KW OF SOLAR ACROSS SIX SCHOOLS. WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND ON BEHALF OF MY COMPANY TO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL SOLAR AS IT IS PROPOSED. THREE YEARS AGO, IF WE HAD THAT PROGRAM IN PLACE, WE WOULD HAVE INSTEAD INSTALLED KILOWATTS ON TOP OF ONE ROOFTOP HIGH SCHOOL. IT WOULD HAVE SAVED THE SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ABOUT 10 HAVE A 20% OF THE PROJECT COST. AND AN IMPROVED ROI. THIS PROGRAM AS IT IS DEFINED GIVES SOLAR OWNERS THE CERTAINTY THEY NEED OVER 15-20 YEARS. EVEN WITH THE LOW EXPORT RATE THAT PROVIDES THE ABILITY TO LINE UP FINANCING AND THIRD- PARTY OWNERSHIP. IT IS A WELL-DEFINED PATHWAY FOR INTERCONNECTION AND IT WILL PROVIDE CLEARLY DEFINED AGREEMENTS FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. FRANKLY, HAVING TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE EVERY INDIVIDUAL PROJECT APPROVED TEST KILLS PROJECTS. SO GETTING RID OF THE REQUIREMENT IS SUBSTANTIALLY BENEFICIAL. IN SHORT, THIS PROGRAM REMOVES A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. IT HAS HAVEN’T HEARD THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOLAR PROJECTS. THERE IS A LOT OF INVESTMENT TO LARGE ROOFTOP SOLAR PROGRAMS. WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE PROVISION TO REEVALUATE THE EXPORT RATE AFTER ABOUT TWO YEARS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT BEING A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR US ALL TO CONTRIBUTE TO. >>EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH JEREMY. KEITH WE ARE FOLLOWED BY STEVE. >>GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA. >>GOOD MORNING, KEITH. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >>I AM HERE TO TESTIFY IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT. FOR SEATTLE CITY LIGHT THE SOLAR PER GRAM MOVING FORWARD. THESE PROGRAMS OBVIOUSLY, I AM TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF LOCAL 46, THE ELECTRICIANS IN SEATTLE. THE GREEN NEW DEAL, GREEN JOBS, CONSTRUCTION JOBS, IN PARTICULAR, ELECTRICAL JOBS A BLUE-COLLAR AS WE HAVE STATED MANY TIMES IN THE PAST. THIS COULD BE ANOTHER PIECE TO INCENTIVIZE AND HELP COMMUNITIES DRIVING APPRENTICESHIP AND WORKFORCE STANDARDS. GIVING PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEW CAREER WHILE HELPING GREEN UP OUR CITY AND DO THE RIGHT THING. AND THROUGH THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE, I BELIEVE IT WILL HELP US TO ACTUALLY DRIVE THE INCENTIVE ASIAN AND GET SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DONE SO WE CAN GET A FOOT FORWARD AND GET AHEAD OF OUR GOALS FOR 2030. SO I AM SUPPORTING IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KEITH. I REALLY LOVE THE PHRASE GREEN NEW JOBS WITH A BLUE-COLLAR. WELCOME, TRANSFER. HELLO, STEVE. >>GOOD MORNING. COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW AND COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA. WE ARE WORKING ON A CLEAN ENERGY AND EQUITY. ESPECIALLY FOCUS ON BRINGING RENEWABLE ENERGY TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE LARGE SOLAR PILOT PROGRAM. WHILE WE APPLAUD CITY LIGHT FOR PILOTING A LARGE SOLAR PROGRAM TO CREATE A PREDICTABLE RATE FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY SYSTEMS UNDER 100 KW. WE ARE DISAPPOINTED THE EXPORT RATE IS LOW. IT DISCOURAGES MORE INVESTMENT. AND THAT IT DOES NOT SEEM TO TAKE CLIMATE CHANGE AND FUTURE NEEDS INTO ACCOUNT. WE ARE ALSO DISAPPOINTED THAT CITY LIGHT DIDN’T REALLY TAKE STAKEHOLDERS CONCERNS SERIOUSLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS POLICY. WE THINK IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FROM OUR PUBLIC UTILITY. THAT IT IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR ACTION PLAN WHICH CALLS FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050. THE DEAL THAT CALLS FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2030. WE SHOULD BE INVESTING IN RENEWABLE ENERGY NOW IS PART OF WHAT WILL BE A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN DEMAND IN THE FUTURE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH EFFICIENCY AND HAS SEEN A REDUCTION IN CURRENT DEMAND. THEREFORE, IT IS RELUCTANT TO REALLY SUPPORT RENEWABLE ENERGY BUT WE KNOW AND WE NEED TO ELECTRIFY OUR BUILDINGS AND TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. WE ALL NEED TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE. THE DELIGHT NEEDS TO BELIEVE THAT THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP, COUNSEL, THE MAYOR, ARE SERIOUS ABOUT ELECTRIFYING THE CITY AND REDUCING POSSIBLE FUEL USE. SO THEY CAN SERIOUSLY INVEST IN RENEWABLE ENERGY AND SUPPORT. BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WANT TO DO THAT. SO WE ARE THANKFUL FOR COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA AND OUR STAFF FOR ADDRESSING CONCERNS HERE. WE SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE OFFERED UP TODAY. WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH SEATTLE CITY LIGHT AND COUNSEL TO ADVANCE THE GOALS OF THE GREEN NEW DEAL FOR MORE RENEWABLE ENERGY. PLEASE SUPPORT THIS AMENDED VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE. >>CAN I ASK A QUALIFYING QUESTION? WITH THE AMENDMENTS, YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE BILLS OF PASSAGE TODAY. >>YES. >>JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND TO THE FOLKS AT IBW. THE INDUSTRY AND THE ASSOCIATION HAS ALSO OFFERED EDITS ALONG THE WAY SO THANK YOU TO THE THREE FOLKS WHO TESTIFIED TODAY AND FOR YOUR WORK TO MAKE THESE BILLS ENHANCE. IS THERE AND WHAT ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON SEATTLE CITY LIGHT ISSUES? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW, WE HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES FOR A LOOK TESTIMONY. ONE IS NOW AND ONE IS WHEN WE GET INTO THE HOTEL WORKER LEGISLATION. I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THE HOTEL WORKER LEGISLATION. ON SEATTLE CITY LIGHT FOR THE RECORD. HOTEL WORKER LEGISLATION TO COME. WE WILL CLOSE OUT PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON SEATTLE CITY LIGHT BILLS. WHAT YOU READ INTO THE RECORD ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO. >>AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, COUNSEL BILL 119516, AND ORDINANCE RELATING TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT, AUTHORIZING A LARGE SOLAR PROGRAM FOR CUSTOMERS WITH SOLAR PHOTOVOLTAIC SYSTEMS SIZED LARGER THAN 100 KW AND NOT GREATER THAN 2 MW. FOR A BRIEFING, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE THAT. ITEM NUMBER TWO. COUNSEL BILL 119571. AND ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE CITY LIGHT DEPARTMENT, AUTHORIZING THE DEPARTMENT TO ENTER AND PARTICIPATE IN THE WESTERN ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET. FOR A BRIEFING IT POSSIBLE FOR >>WE WILL TAKE ITEM NUMBER ONE AND STRESS IT. THEN WE WILL DO ITEM NUMBER TWO. I MIGHT AS WELL BRING YOU ALL UP TOGETHER. WHAT WE GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND WE WILL GET STARTED WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE. >>CALVIN CHILD. COUNSEL CENTRAL STUFF. >>TESTING, GENERAL MANAGER, SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. >>BRENDAN O’DONNELL. >>WONDERFUL, THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE SOME OPENING COMMENTS FOR US? >>JUST TO NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOUR OFFICE AND WITH STAFF ON POTENTIAL SUBSTITUTE BILLS THAT INCLUDE LOBBY MINUTES THAT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LEGISLATION. I HAVE THAT AS MATERIALS HERE. >>GREAT. WE WILL LET YOU GUYS GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER. I HAVE COMMENTS POTENTIALLY BEFORE A VOTE. JUST WANT TO T OF THESE TWO ITEMS. I THINK DONE RIGHT, AS YOU HEARD STEVE MENTION AND WITH LABOR COMMUNITY AT THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW GREEN ENERGY JOBS ARE UNION JOBS AS YOU HEARD KEITH TALK ABOUT, THESE ARE GREAT COMPONENTS TO THE OVERALL EFFORT TO TRY TO REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND CREATE MORE GREEN ENERGY OPTIONS ON THE MARKET AND FOR CONSUMERS. BOTH RESIDENTIAL CONSUMERS AND LARGE COMMERCIAL CONSUMERS AS WELL. I THINK THIS IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE CONVERSATIONS WE’VE BEEN HAVING OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS ABOUT HOW WE CREATE A GREENER ECONOMY AND GREENER TECHNOLOGY AND FULFILL OUR GOALS TO MEET THE GREEN NEW DEAL. I DON’T WANT ANYBODY TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT, THAT THESE TWO ELEMENTS EQUAL A GREEN NEW DEAL PACKAGE. AS YOU SAW IN THE GREEN NEW DEAL, THE PROPOSAL THAT THE COUNCIL PASSED WAS EARLIER THIS WEEK? IT IS A LONG LIST OF ITEMS. SO I THINK THAT AS WE THINK OF EVERY SINGLE TOOL IN OUR TOOLKIT, SEATTLE CITY LIGHT HAS BEEN GREAT AT HELPING TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO CONSUME LESS ENERGY AND TO MAKE THAT GREENER ENERGY. I SEE THESE AS COMPLEMENTARY, NOT THE GREEN NEW DEAL ITSELF BUT COMPLEMENTARY TO IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. I THINK IT IS GREAT TIMING. I WILL TURN IT OVER FOR ALL OF YOU TO WALK US THROUGH WHAT WE WILL CONSIDER TODAY. >>RENDON IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE PRESENTER. I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. NUMBER ONE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TESTIMONY THAT STEVE PROVIDED. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A STEP AND WE HAVE REALLY EFFECT WORKED HARD TO ACCOMMODATE INPUT FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. I WOULD SAY THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IS, WE ARE EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING AND INTEGRATING DISTRIBUTIVE ENERGY RESOURCES INTO THE SYSTEM. AND I THINK ABOUT AMERICA, PART OF A REORGANIZATION THAT CITY LIGHT DID LATE SPRING, IS CHARGED WITH ALL OF THESE, HE IS, THE FUTURE IS NOW. THE FUTURE FOR US IS AROUND ELECTIVE FURCATION. IT IS AROUND THE GREEN ENERGY FUTURE. WE ALL ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO BALANCE THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF OUR CHOICES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING ABSORBED BY THE RIGHT PEOPLE. I DON’T KNOW WHO THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE AT TIMES. THERE IS NO ONE ANSWER. SO I WOULD SAY THAT’S IS A STEP, BUT I WANT TO ASSURE FOLKS THAT WE ARE VERY COMMITTED TO DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES. IN FACT, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT RESOURCE PLANNING IN THE FUTURE, WE THINK ABOUT THAT AS A DISTRIBUTED MODEL. THE DAYS OF LARGE-SCALE GENERATION THAT GOES INTO THE TOP OF A FUNNEL AND FLOWS OUT TO OUR CUSTOMERS ARE CERTAINLY ON THE WAY OUT. WE WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF THAT MOVE. THAT IS A LOT OF WHY WE HAVE ORGANIZED THE WAY WE HAVE. I THINK MY POINT THERE IS TO SAY WE HEAR THE ADVICE. WE ARE LOOKING TO EQUITABLY BALANCE THE COST OF THESE PROGRAMS WITH THE NEEDS OF CUSTOMERS, PARTICULARLY OUR LOWEST INCOME CUSTOMERS. THAT IS A CONSTANT CHALLENGE FOR US. ONE THAT WE EMBRACE AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK ON BUT KNOW THAT EVEN AS THE CITY EMBRACES GREEN NEW DEAL WORK, WE HAVE A WHOLE BODY OF WORK THAT IS ALL AROUND ELECTRIFICATION, INNOVATION AND ALL GREEN ALL THE TIME. SO MORE TO COME AND YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS FROM EMEKA ANYANWU AND HIS TEAM. WE SEE TWO EFFORTS THAT QUITE FRANKLY PROCEEDED BOTH TRANSIT SEEN AND I IN THEIR ORIGINS. THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE WILL TAKE UP LATER IS ONE THAT I HAVE BEEN TRACKING IN MY FORMER ROLE. THIS ONE IS ONE THAT WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF HEART AND SOUL INTO. I THINK THAT EVEN EMEKA AND I FEEL A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP AND LOVE FOR THIS. WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BRENDAN O’DONNELL WHO HAS MADE IT HIS LOVE AND LABOR OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. IS THAT A FAIR ASSUMPTION? >>NOT QUITE BUT AT LEAST ONE YEAR. >>WE GET STARTED, I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING OPENED AND ACCEPTING OF THE MOMENTS WE’VE BEEN CRAFTING WITH FOLKS BOTH IN THE AUDIENCE AND EXTERNALLY AS WELL. ERIN HOUSE HAS JOINED US AT THE TABLE AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK WITH US. AND SATELLITE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WILLINGNESS TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS BEFORE WE BROUGHT THEM FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>SO I WILL GET INTO THE PRESENTATION AND WHAT I ASK IS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST INTERRUPT ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SLIDE. >>WE ARE NOT SHY. >>GOOD. OKAY, SO I WANTED TO GROUND US IN TANGIBLY, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY LARGE COMMERCIAL SOLAR SYSTEMS? IT IS NOT THIS. THERE ARE MANY SOLAR SYSTEMS. THERE ARE OVER 4000 SOLAR SYSTEMS ON EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR SMALL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS LIKE FAMILY. THEY LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THERE ARE MANY OF THEM OUT THERE BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. WE ARE ALSO NOT TALKING ABOUT LARGE MEGAWATT SCALE GENERATION IN THE DESERT. THIS IS A SOLAR FARM, 500 MB IN CALIFORNIA. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EITHER. >>THIS IS VERY HELPFUL. >>WHEN YOU SAY LOW, SOLAR, IT IS OFTEN UNCLEAR WHAT YOU MEAN. OFTEN THERE ARE SIT STEMS THAT LOOK LIKE THIS. ON LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE URBAN CORE, WITHIN THE SERVICE TERRITORY, THIS IS ABOUT 130 MW EMMA KILOWATTS ON A VA FACILITY IN CALIFORNIA. THE SYSTEMS WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IN THIS LEGISLATION LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO THE FIRST THING TO KNOW ABOUT THE SOLAR MARKET IS THAT IT IS HEAVILY DIVIDED BY THE PHYSICAL SIZE OF THE SYSTEM. SO THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE THE HOUSE I SHOWED FIRST ARE LESS THAN 100 KW. THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE LARGE ARE OVER 2 MW. WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE SYSTEMS IN THE ORANGE THAT ARE ABOVE 100 KW BUT LESS THAN 2 MW. WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW CUSTOMERS ARE COMPENSATED FOR THE GENERATION IN EACH ONE OF THESE SYSTEM SIZES, IT VARIES VERY DISTINCTLY. 100 KW IS REALLY A STRONG DIVIDING LINE IN THE SAND. SO FOR CUSTOMERS WITH SYSTEMS LESS THAN 100 KW, THEY RECEIVE WHAT IS ANNUAL METERING. ANYONE ON THAT METERING INVOLVES BANKING KILOWATT HOURS FOR PERIODS OF OVER GENERATION AND APPLYING THEM TO PERIODS WHERE CUSTOMERS NEED THEM LIKE THE NIGHT OR WINTER. SO WE ARE OFFERING METERING UP TO 4% OF THE UTILITY LOAD. THIS WAS EXPANDED BY A RECENT BILL IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE. 5223. THERE HAS BEEN EXPANSION FOR THIS NET METERING PROGRAM THAT WE SUPPORTED IN OLYMPIA AND WE FEEL THERE IS A LOT MORE CERTAINTY FOR THESE CUSTOMERS, AT LEAST OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WHICH IS A GREAT THING. CONVERSELY, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM WITH A LARGE SYSTEMS, WE HAVEN’T ESTABLISHED, WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS FOR PUBLIC COMPETITIVE RFPS. THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS FOR THE NEW GRID SKILL SYSTEMS. WHERE THERE IS NOT AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS IS A MIDSIZE SYSTEMS. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE CUSTOMERS LIKE JEREMY TESTIFIED, WHEN THEY COME TO US, WE INDIVIDUALLY NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH EACH ONE OF THESE SYSTEMS THAT COMES FORWARD. THERE’S CURRENTLY FOR SYSTEMS OF THIS SIZE IN SEATTLE. BUT THERE IS A LOT MORE INTEREST IN HAVING THIS CUSTOM NEGOTIATED PROCESS. IT IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE FOR CITY LIGHT. IT IS CERTAINLY NOT A GOOD LACE TO BE FOR CUSTOMERS. SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE, WHY WE ARE BRINGING THIS LEGISLATION FORWARD AS WE WANT A STANDARD SET OF TERMS FOR CUSTOMERS GOING FORWARD. SO THAT EVERYBODY IS CLEAR ABOUT WHAT DEAL THEY GET IN THERE IS MUCH MORE CERTAINTY IN WHAT WE ARE OFFERING TO CUSTOMERS IN THIS MIDDLE PART OF THE SOLAR MARKET. AS THE MAMA BEAR OF THE SOLAR SECTOR. SO OKAY. SO THAT IS THE INTENT. THAT IS THE OVERALL INTENT OF WHY WE ARE DOING THIS. WE TALK ABOUT THE NITTY-GRITTY OF GREAT DESIGN OR PROJECT FINANCE, ANY OF THE MINUTIA OF HOW THESE THINGS GET BUILT AND PAY FOR, WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT OUR PRINCIPALS ARE. WHAT ARE WE DESIGNING THIS PROGRAM TO ACHIEVE? IT IS EASY TO GET MIRED DOWN BY DETAILS BUT THE DEGREE TO WHICH WE COULD BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO TO DESIGN THIS TO WILL BE A BETTER PROGRAM. I’M GOING THROUGH THE PROGRAM PRINCIPLES FIRST. SO THE FIRST IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE THESE LARGER CUSTOMERS A CLEAR RATE STRUCTURE FOR THE SOLAR SYSTEMS THAT GIVE THEM MORE CERTAINTY AND THEIR INVESTMENT. THIS PRINTABLE IS ALL ABOUT CERTAINTY. YOU DON’T GET PROJECTS ON ROOFS BEING BUILT IF YOU DON’T HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT THE DEAL WILL BE LONG-TERM. SO THAT IS THE FIRST PRIORITY. SO THE SECOND IS THAT WE WANT TO OFFER CUSTOMERS A VALUED PROPOSITION IN LINE WITH OUR CORE RESOURCES. WHEN I SAY CORE RESOURC, I MEAN ENERGY EFFICIENCY. IT IS OUR LONG-STANDING PRIORITY ENERGY RESOURCE FOR OVER 40 YEARS. A DEGREE TO WHICH WE CAN ALIGN THE VALUE COMPOSITION FOR SOLAR AND WE WILL MAKE IT A BETTER VALUE FOR THE UTILITY AND OUR CUSTOMERS. THE THIRD IS THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE COOK UP AS A PROGRAM DESIGN, WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT WITH CUSTOMERS. WE WANT A SEAMLESS CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. WE DON’T WANT THESE SYSTEMS FROM AN I.T. AND BUSINESS PROCESS PERSPECTIVE SO THE SIMPLICITY OF PROGRAM DESIGN AND OUR ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT IT WAS A CORE PRINCIPLE FOR US. THE LAST PRINCIPAL WAS WE WANT TO MINIMIZE COST SHIFTING BETWEEN CUSTOMERS TO THE AGREE FEASIBLE. DEBORAH TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE BEGINNING. THERE ARE ALWAYS TRADE-OFFS WHEN YOU’RE DESIGNING. SOME PEOPLE BENEFIT AND SOME PEOPLE PAY. WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THAT COST SHIFT TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE. THERE IS ALWAYS COST SHIFTING AND RATE DESIGN BUT IT IS ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES AS AN ELECTRIC UTILITY TO TRY TO MINIMIZE IT TO BE FITTED, FEASIBLE. THESE ARE THE FOUR PRINCIPLES AT A HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DECIDE, DESIGN THIS SOLAR PROGRAM TOWARDS. I WILL WALK THROUGH WITH VISUALS AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THE DESIGN TO BE. WHEN A CUSTOMER INSTALLS A LARGE SOLAR SYSTEM ON THE ROOF AND GENERATES ENERGY, THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT THE ENERGY CAN BE USED. IT CAN EITHER GO TO THE BUILDING AND BE USED FOR THE LOADS OF THE LIGHTING, HEATING, OR IT CAN GO TO THE GRID. AND THE WAY WE COMPENSATE CUSTOMERS, IT VARIES BASED ON HOW THE ENERGY IS USED AFTER IT IS GENERATED. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS ALL ENERGY THAT IS USED ON SAY, IT OFFSETS ENERGY CONSUMPTION FROM THE UTILITY. IN DOING SO, COME STORMERS ARE COMPENSATED AT THE RETAIL RATE OF POWER. FOR MEDIUM GENERAL SERVICE CUSTOMERS, THAT IS ABOUT 7 1/2 CENTS. SO IF YOU GENERATE ENERGY, YOU USE IT ON SITE, YOU ARE GETTING THE BENEFIT OF 7 1/2 CENTS PER KILOWATT. FOR MOST, I SHOULD CLARIFY, FOR MOST BUILDINGS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF ENERGY GENERATED IS USED ON SITE. SO FOR ENERGY THAT IS IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE BUILDING NEEDS AND IS EXPORTED TO THE CITY LIGHT SYSTEM, WE ARE PROPOSING TO COMPENSATE CUSTOMERS AT AN EXPORT RATE. IT COMPRISES THE VALUE OF THE POWER THE BENEFITS TO THE GRIDS THAT CITY LIGHT RECEIVES FROM THIS ENERGY COMING ONTO THE SYSTEM. IT IS A GREAT BENEFIT. WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THIS IS LOWER THAN THE RETAIL POWER, THREE HAVE CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR IN 2019. AS JEREMY MENTIONED, WE ARE COMMITTED TO UPDATING THIS EVERY TWO YEARS. MARKET CONDITIONS CHANGE THE NEEDS OF OUR SYSTEM. WE ARE COMMITTING TO HAVING THIS BE A LIVING RATE THAT WE UPDATE BASED ON IT AS THINGS CHANGE. SO, THAT IS THE DESIGN OF THE PROGRAM. IS THERE ANY QUESTION TANGIBLY OF WHAT WE ARE OFFERING TO CUSTOMERS? >>I AM INTERESTED IN KNOWING THAT MAYBE YOU WILL GET INTO THIS. HOW DO YOU TELL PEOPLE THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE TO THEM? WHAT ARE THE POSITIVE IMPACTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE FROM OUR SYSTEM ITSELF? OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU DON’T HAVE TO SPILL WATER OVER THE DAM AND GENERATE ELECTRICITY, THAT IS A GOOD. IN SEATTLE, YOU LOOK AT, WE HAVE A CLOUDY DAY TODAY. HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW? HOW SIMPLE CAN WE MAKE ITS TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT THE BENEFITS COULD BE FOR THEM AND WHETHER THEY WOULD WANT TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT? >>I WILL ANSWER BOTH PARTS OF THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHICH IS THAT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE POWER. IT IS, ONE, WE DON’T HAVE TO GENERATE IT. WE CAN GENERATE AND SELL IT TO OTHER PEOPLE. SO THAT IS THE POWER VALUE COMPONENTS. WE ALSO GET A GRADE THAT IF IT IF CUSTOMERS EXPORTS ENERGY ONTO THE GRID AND IT IS USED BY ONE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, WE NEED LESS ATTRIBUTION AND TRANSMISSION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THOSE ARE THE VALUE QUESTIONS. HOW WE COMMUNICATE TO CUSTOMERS IS VERY SIMPLE. IT WILL BE ONE ON OUR WEBSITE. ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE PROGRAM DESIGN, IT IS JUST DONE ON THE BILL ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THERE IS NO SHADOW PROCESS OR SEPARATE MAILERS. WE ARE CAN COMMITTING TO CUSTOMERS ON A GENERAL BASIS. BASED ON WHAT THEY EXPORTED. >>SO I WANT TO DO, SOME OF THE PROGRAM CHANGES BECAUSE THIS IS DEBORAH ALLUDED TO HAS BEEN GOING ON A WHILE. WE RECEIVED A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT. WE HAVE CHANGED THE DESIGN OF THE PROGRAM BASED ON SOME OF THE INPUT WE RECEIVED. SO I WANTED TO TALK THROUGH BASED ON STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK SOME OF THE PROGRAM CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AND THE EVOLUTION OF WHAT WE ARE OFFERING IN THE ORDINANCE. SO THE FIRST BIG CHANGES THAT WE INITIALLY WERE PROPOSING TO USE A SYSTEM OF 1 MW AS THE CAP . WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMERS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SYSTEM LARGER THAN THAT. OUR RESPONSE WAS, THAT IS ACTUALLY FINE. WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO US AT THE DESIGN OF THE PROGRAM. NOT NECESSARILY THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEM. IF YOU CAN FIT A 2 MW SYSTEM ON THE ROOF OF A BUILDING IN SEATTLE, GO FOR IT. THE SECOND, AND JEREMY ALLUDED TO THIS, WE ARE COMMITTING TO A 15 YEAR TERM. IT IS A LOT EASIER AND MORE VIABLE TO GET PROJECT FINANCING IF YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM FUNDING. WE AGREE WITH THAT. SO WE ARE GUARANTEEING TO OFFER THIS PROGRAM FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS. ANOTHER THING IS THAT WE ARE UPDATING THE PRICE EVERY TWO YEARS, WHICH PEOPLE WANTED. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL KNOW, WE WILL NEVER GO BELOW A FLOOD. WE WILL OFFER YOU A CERTAIN PRICE GOING FORWARD AND SO WE HAVE SET UP PRICE FLOOR AS WELL. THE THIRD THING WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK ON WITH THE GREENNESS OF THE ENERGY. SO OUR INITIAL APPROACH WAS IF WE WERE BUYING POWER. IF WE WERE BUYING THE EXPORTED POWER FROM OUR CUSTOMERS. WE WANT THE GREENEST OF THAT ENERGY. WE ARE COVERING ELECTRIC UTILITIES AS A MATTER OF POLICY. WE WILL INVEST IN RENEWABLE ENERGY. WE WERE INITIALLY PROPOSING TO BY THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS FROM OUR CUSTOMERS. BE CHANGED DIRECTION ON THAT. WE HEARD VERY CLEAR STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK THAT THE REASON PEOPLE WERE DOING THIS WITH FOUR CORPORATE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. FOR BUILDING CERTIFICATION AND THEY NEED THE GREENEST OF THAT POWER. AND SO WE ARE NOT BUYING THE GREENNESS OF THE ENERGY THAT RETAINS TO THE CUSTOMER. >>AND THE LAST THING, WE ARE ADDING AN EXPLICIT INCENTIVE FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE HIGHLY EFFICIENT WITH LARGE SOLAR SYSTEMS. IN THE LIVING BUILDING CHALLENGE. THAT IS A BUILDING CERTIFICATION THAT ALIGNS WITH THE LEAVE, CITY POLICY. THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTION ALREADY HAS AN INCENTIVE. FOR THESE THINGS. WE ARE PROPOSING TO OFFER THE NET METERING. THE MORE LUCRATIVE NET METERING STRUCTURE FOR THE THING HOLDING CHALLENGE PARTICIPANTS WITH SOLAR SYSTEMS LESS THAN 250 KW. WE ALSO EXPENDED THAT JUST YESTERDAY IN THE AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE POTENTIALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS. WE ARE WORKING WITH YOUR OFFICE SO WE WANT TO KNOW THAT AS WELL. WE MADE SEVERAL CHANGES OVER THE YEAR LONG PROCESS OF TRYING TO BRING THIS BEFORE COUNCIL AND GETTING STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK, SO THAT IS IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR HEAR ANY COMMENTS ON THE AMENDMENTS. >>CALVIN, YOU HAVE A STAFF MEMBER FOR US. YOU ALSO HAVE A DRAFT OF THE AMENDED LEGISLATION, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE OVERALL PRESENTATION? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GET INTO THE HEART OF THE BILL? >>THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. >>GREAT. LET’S GO AHEAD. FOR THE VIEWING AUDIENCE, ALL THREE OF YOU WHO TESTIFIED, THERE IS A COPY ON THE PODIUM OVER THERE AS WELL. >>THIS IS LABELED THE FIVE. >>GREAT. IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN, THAT IS GREAT. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GRAB IT. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START WALKING THROUGH THEM. >>’S OF THE AMENDMENTS, THE FIRST START SHOWING UP ON PAGE 3. THE FIRST ONE IS ACTUALLY A CORRECTION TO THE EXPORT CREDIT RATE. IT WAS JUST A MATH CORRECTION, A TECHNICAL CORRECTION THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE. ITEM NUMBER SIX, HALFWAY DOWN THE PAGE IS A PIECE THAT RECOGNIZES THE LIVING BUILDING CHALLENGE CERTIFICATION. AUTHORIZES THAT PARTICIPATION WITH THE NEW LANGUAGE AT THE END ACKNOWLEDGING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERFORMING UNDER HIGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR A HIGHER NET METER ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. THE NEXT SECTION HAS REMOVED úLANGUAGE ON THE PILOT BASIS. JUST MAKES SOME OF THE CORRECTIONS. SO THE NEW SECTION NUMBER TWO REQUESTS YEARLY EVALUATION REPORTS IN A YEAR FROM NOW. IN 2021. THEY WOULD ALSO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THE PROGRAM SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. AND A NEW SECTION 3 ASKS CITY LIGHT TO CONVENE LABOR HOUSING AND ENERGY ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCACY STAKEHOLDERS TO WORK ON THAT EVALUATION AND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT AND IT LAYS OUT A NUMBER OF SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT THE COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN. WAYS TO ADVANCED LABOR STANDARDS IMPACTS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE ALIGNMENT OF THESE PROGRAMS WITH OUR CLIMATE GOALS, THE GREEN NEW DEAL FOR INSTANCE. THE IMPACTS OF NEW TECHNOLOGY AND ALSO THE ABILITY OF OTHER GREEN BUILDING CERTIFICATIONS. >>SO COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW, JUST TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THESE ITEMS, CALVIN, THANK YOU FOR SUMMARIZING THIS FOR US. THE SCHEMATIC CONVERSAIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH LABOR, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES, ENVIRONMENTAL ENERGY ADVOCATES, FOLKS LIKE EMERALD CITY, NORTHWEST ENERGY COALITION, SPARK NORTHWEST AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE ARE ENCOURAGING THOSE SAME ENTITIES TO CONTINUE TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON LABOR STANDARDS, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ARE SERVING THE LOWEST INCOME. SOME OF THE THINGS I AM EXCITED ABOUT IN THIS DRAFT INCLUDE THE INCORPORATING THE LANGUAGE THAT INCORPORATES PROJECTS PERFORMING UNDER THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF LIVING AND BUILDING CHALLENGES. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM THE COUNTY WAS REALLY IMPORTANT. I WANT TO THANK APRIL AND THE FOLKS AT KING COUNTY WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US ON BEHALF OF THE EXECUTIVE’S OFFICE TO INCLUDE SOME AMENDMENTS HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO WAS MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ENCOURAGING HIGH- PERFORMING ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AS YOU HEARD KEITH TALK ABOUT. AND ALSO INCLUDES A PROVISION THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ARE PERFORMING AT HIGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS, WE KNOW AS WE BUILD MORE HOUSING, WE WANT THIS TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR THE FOLKS LIVING THERE AND ALSO MEETING OUR GOALS AS A CITY TO REDUCE ENERGY CONSUMPTION. YOU HEARD HAVEN’T MENTIONED A YEARLY EVALUATION. THAT GIVES US FORMANTS REPORTS BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AND AUGUST OF 2020 AND AUGUST 2021. ALONG FOR THE SAME STAKEHOLDERS TO OFFER US FEEDBACK. I WANT TO THANK SEATTLE CITY LIGHT FOR YOUR WORK TO HELP IN THE FUTURE TO CONTINUE TO CONVENE LABOR HOUSING ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT TOLD ADVOCACY GROUPS. INCLUDING INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FOCUSED ON WAYS TO IMPROVE LABOR STANDARDS, IMPACTS ON HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY PARTICIPATION, ALIGNMENT WITH THE PROGRAM, ALIGNING THIS PROGRAM WITH SEATTLE’S CLIMATE GOALS, IMPACTS ON POTENTIALLY NEW AND EMERGING TO OLOGIES AND THE APPLICATION OF OTHER GREEN WELDING CERTIFICATIONS. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE ARE WAYS TO CONTINUE TO ENHANCE AND AMEND THIS. DEBORAH, YOU SAID IT WELL. THIS IS, THESE BOTH ARE GREAT FIRST STEPS AS WE THINK ABOUT CONTINUING TO EVOLVE. >>CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? THESE ARE FOR YOU. WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THESE AMENDMENTS? >>THESE AMENDMENTS IN PUTTING THEM IN THE THE, WE SUPPORT THEM. THEY ARE GOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REVEALED WAS THAT FOR THESE INCREDIBLY EFFICIENT BUILDINGS WITH LARGE SOLAR SYSTEMS, OUR POLICY AS WRITTEN COULD BE A LITTLE BIT PUNITIVE. AND SO ALLOWING FOR A CARVEOUT FOR NET METER FOR THESE BUILDINGS MAKES SENSE TO ME. A LIVING BUILDING CHALLENGE IN PARTICULAR IS THE CITY’S POLICY. IT WAS EASY TO TIE THAT IN. >>IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES THE BUILDING TO OVER GENERATE. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS WERE NOT BEING PENALIZED IN ANY WAY. THAT WAS A GREAT AMENDMENT. I THINK THE EVALUATIONS, WE CERTAINLY LOOK AT THIS AS A FIRST STEP. AS WE HAVE HAD ALL OF OUR INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS, WE CERTAINLY EXPECT THAT WE WILL LEARN FROM THIS FIRST TWO-YEAR PERIOD. SO WRITING THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE. I THINK IT IS OUR GOAL TO WORK WITH KING COUNTY WITH ALL OF THE INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE SURE THIS PROGRAM WORKS FOR EVERYONE. I THINK EVERYTHING IN HERE IS GOOD. >>IF I COULD JUST ASK ABOUT RESIDENCES AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS WORKING? SO WAS TO SAY WE HAVE A NEW PROJECT COMING IN. HOW DOES THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE DEVELOPER REACH OUT TO YOU AND BECOME PART OF THIS PROGRAM ON THE FRONT END? >>SURE. ONE OF THE NICE THINGS IS WE HAVE NOTHING DIFFERENT. THE INTERCONNECTION PROCESS, YOU HEARD JEREMY MENTION THAT AS WELL. THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE BRING THE SOLAR SYSTEM ONTO OUR GRADE. AND CERTIFY IT. IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME. WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHED BUSINESS PROCESS NOW. SO NOTHING CHANGES ON THAT. IN TERMS OF COMPENSATION, CUSTOMERS WILL SIGN UP ON THE WEBSITE AND THIS IS AN ACTUAL RATE. IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY CURRENT BILLING SYSTEMS. AND IT WILL BE A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS. >>ERIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS YOU LIKE TO ADD FROM YOUR CONVERSATION WITH HOUSING, FEEL FREE TO. >>YEAH, WE HAD HEARD IN LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY LIGHT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS THAT LIKELY RIGHT NOW, THERE WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS WOULD MEET THE 100 KW THRESHOLD BUT THERE ARE PROJECTS UNDERWAY BOTH WITHIN CITY LIGHT AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CONSORTIUM TO ENCOURAGE SOLAR PRODUCTION ON SITE. THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THERE COULD BE SOME PROJECTS COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE. SO BEING ABLE TO INCORPORATE THAT POSSIBILITY THROUGH THE AMENDMENT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOLKS. >>COULD I ADD ONE MORE THING? >>I WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION TWO. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAMS DIRECTION? >>I MEAN, I THINK MY COLLEAGUES HAVE COVERED WELL. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, THE BALANCE WE TRIED TO STRIKE HERE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT THE CITY’S STATED CLIMATE GOALS WHILE ALSO BALANCING THE REAL VALUE OF THAT ENERGY TO THE UTILITY. SO WE CERTAINLY THINK THAT THE BEST VALUE TO THAT UTILITY AND TO OUR CUSTOMERS IS FOR BUILDINGS TO OFFSET THEIR OWN USAGE. I THINK THE CHANCES ARE MOST BUILDINGS WILL WIND UP BENEFITING FROM THIS AT THE RETAIL RATE BECAUSE THEY ARE OFFSETTING MIKE OWN USAGE. WE THINK WE HAVE LANDED IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE. >>THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? >>I WANT TO TOUCH ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY METHOD TO COMPENSATE THEM FOR THEIR SOLAR SYSTEM. I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE THINGS. WE ARE SUPPORTING THE UPFRONT COSTS OF SOLAR SYSTEMS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS THROUGH THE GREEN UP GRAHAM, A VOLUNTARY RENEWABLE PROGRAM. SO WE ARE PAYING 30% OF THE UPFRONT COST ON SEVERAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS DIRECTLY. THAT IS ONE OTHER SOURCE OF VALUE. ANOTHER IS WE ARE PILOTING A PROGRAM CALLED VIRTUAL NET METERING. WHAT THAT DOES IS ON MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS TAKE THE VALUE OF SOLAR AND AGGREGATE IT OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL TENANTS. THAT IS A CHALLENGING AILING PROBLEM. IT CAN BE DONE AND WE ARE PILOTING THAT AT A FELLOW SQUARE. AT COVELLO AND MLK. >>THAT IS THE CHALLENGE. AS WE LOOK AT AND WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH LEGAL ON THIS AND OTHER POTENTIAL PROJECTS, BUT THE CHALLENGES THAT THE BENEFITS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEED TO ACCRUE TO THE TENANT. AND SO THAT IS WHY VIRTUAL NET METERING WORKS. THERE ARE MECHANISMS THAT ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN. SO THE INDIVIDUAL TENANT IS RECEIVING THE VALUE FOR THE INVESTMENT ON THE FACILITY. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US TODAY. FROM A LEGAL AND WHAT WE CAN DO. >>I SEE THIS AS OVERALL IMPROVING THE CONSISTENCY AND PREDICTABILITY FOR SOME OF OUR FOLKS WHO WANT TO HAVE ON-SITE SOLAR PRODUCTION IN THE PRIVATE MARKET, INCLUDING OUR NONPROFIT PROVIDER ENTITIES SO THAT INCLUDES THE NONPROFIT HOUSING FOLKS. SOME OF THE NONPROFIT HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT I HAVE SEEN ARE JUST GORGEOUS. SOME HAVE ROOFTOP ACCESS AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW ONE OF THE ONES WE SELL RECENTLY AT 23rd & UNION, THAT IS A REALLY BIG ROOFTOP. WHAT IF A PORTION OF THAT WOULD TO BE ALLOCATED? IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THE SPECTRUM. WHAT IT DOES TO ALLOW US THAT TECHNOLOGY. I AM EXCITED ABOUT IT. >>ANY FOR THE QUESTIONS? >>NOT TO DIGRESS TOO FAR BUT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THIS IS COMPLEMENTARY TO OTHER PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS WHERE THEY CAN GET A CREDIT UPFRONT, OR THEY GET TAX CREDITS FROM THE STATE. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THIS INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER PROGRAMS WILL DOVETAIL WITH THIS GOOD IDEA YOU HAVE GOD FOR THE MIDDLE? >>SURE. SO FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS, HISTORICALLY, THERE HAS BEEN A STATE TAX INCENTIVE. THAT IS BEEN VERY LUCRATIVE. IT HAS LARGELY ENDED. SO WE ARE PAYING OUT TO EXISTING CUSTOMERS WHO ARE PART OF THE PROGRAM. THE UTILITY ADMINISTERS IT BUT IT IS STATE FUNDS. THERE ARE STATE POGROMS BUT WE ARE ALSO OFFERING THIS NET METERING PROGRAM DESIGNED GOING FORWARD. OR LESS AND DEFINITELY. UP TO 4% OF OUR LOAD WE COMPENSATE CUSTOMERS AT THE RETAIL RATE OF POWER FOR ALL OF THE GENERATION. >>IT IS LUCRATIVE TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT? >>TO CUSTOMERS. YEAH. >>SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COMPENSATION FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, IT IS THOSE STATE INCENTIVES AND THE NET METERING. THE STATE INCENTIVES ARE OFF THE TABLE LARGE FOR NEW CUSTOMERS. NET METERING WILL REMAIN AT LEAST UNTIL 2028, OR 4% OF OUR LOAD. >>THANK YOU. >>I AM REALLY APPRECIAIVE OF THIS. I KNOW YOU HAVE ONE MORE SEATTLE CITY LIGHT PIECE YOU WANT TO GET TO BEFORE 10 AM. I AM WONDERING, COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW, IF WE COULD GO AHEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL 119 BY SUBSTITUTING THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUBSTITUTING VERSION 5 FOR VERSION 1, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. NO OPPOSED. GREAT. THE VERSION 5 IS ADOPTED. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CONSIDER A FINAL VOTE? >>I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND THE COMMITTEE PASS COUNSEL BEEN 119516 AS AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. NONE OPPOSED? GREAT. WE HAVE PASSED THIS AND WE WILL BRING IT FORWARD TO FULL COUNCIL ON OUR FIRST MEETING BACK WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 3. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE ON THIS AND TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE AS WELL AS BRING IT FORWARD TO COUNSEL. >>CAN I JUST SAY, BECAUSE HE IS NOT AT THE TABLE, I WANT TO APPRECIATE CRAIG SMITH WHO IS BRANDON’S BOSS AND THE DIRECTOR OF CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS. MOBLEY THE GRANDFATHER, PAPA BEAR, HE IS THE GRANDFATHER BEAR TO, WOULDN’T YOU SAY BRENDAN? HE KEPT EVERYONE ON TASK AND ALSO MAURA BERGER WHO HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL WORKING THERE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. KUDOS TO THOSE TWO AS WELL. >>EXCELLENT PRESENTATION TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THIS. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE. WE HAVE DEBRA SMITH, CONSISTING, TO 19, AND CALVIN WILL STAY WITH US AS WELL. WE HAVE ALREADY READ INTO THE RECORD, I DO NUMBER TWO. SO WHY DO WE GO AHEAD AND T UP THE SECOND PRESENTATION AND DEBRA SMITH, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS LEADING INTO IT. >>THE LARGE SOLAR PROJECT RATE IS SUPER EXCITING AND IMPORTANT, THIS PIECE THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO DO NOW, I THINK IT IS EXTREMELY COMPLEMENTARY. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I THINK ERIN, YOU AND MAURA WERE WORKING ON COMMENTS AND I CAN’T OVER EMPHASIZE THAT. AS WE THINK ABOUT, I ALWAYS HAVE TO DO MY LITTLE SPIEL BECAUSE I LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THE CITY OF SEATTLE IS INCREDIBLY BLESSED TO HAVE AN ABUNDANT SOURCE OF CARBON FREE RESOURCES. IN THE FORM OF ITS HYDRA SYSTEM, BOTH AT SKAGIT BOUNDARY AND SMALLER PROJECTS. ETC. ANYWAY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN’T REALLY BE OVERSTATED. WE ARE LONG WHEN WE SAY LONG. THAT MEANS WE GENERATE MORE POWER OVER THE YEAR OR OVER THE MONTH, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THAT IS NOT TRUE BUT IN GENERAL, WE GENERATE OR HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GENERATE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE POWER THAN THE PEOPLE SEATTLE USE. AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST, DUE TO THE LONG-TERM INVESTMENT IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY, SOLAR AND QUITE FRANKLY THE FACT THAT WE ARE REBUILDING SEATTLE AND WE ARE INCREASING ITS DENSITY, AND UPBUILDING, THE WORK THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY OSC, ETC., HAVE DONE TO REQUIRE BUILDING CODES THAT SUPPORT ENERGY EFFICIENCY. WE ARE REPLACING OLD STOCK WITH NEW, FAR MORE EFFICIENT STOCK. IT CONTRIBUTES TO THIS TREND AS WELL. SO THAT IS MY EDUCATIONAL PLUG. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS FOR US TO EFFECTIVELY INTEGRATE INCREASED AMOUNTS OF SOLAR AND DISTRIBUTED GENERATION, THE THINGS OUR CUSTOMERS WANT AND THAT WE WANT FOR OURSELVES AND FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, WE NEED TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE WAY OF MARKETING THAT ENERGY IN A WAY THAT BRINGS MAXIMUM VALUE TO OUR CUSTOMERS. OUR CUSTOMER OWNERS. THAT IS PART OF THE GREAT INTEGRATION VALUE THAT BRENDAN REFERRED TO. PIM IS PART OF THAT. IT IS A BIG DEAL BECAUSE WE ARE THE FIRST PUBLIC UTILITY IN THE NORTHWEST WHO WILL BE JOINING THE ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET. AND IT HAS BEEN AND ACROSS THE BOW PIECE OF WORK TODAY. THAT IS A FINAL LEGISLATIVE STEP IN THAT PROCESS. WE ARE INCREDIBLY CLOSE TO MAKING THIS LONG-TERM VISION REAL. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN, WHO DON’T EVEN WORK HERE ANYMORE. SO KUDOS TO EACH OF THEM. I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO SARAH AND IT IS JUST A REALLY EXCITING DAY. >>EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU, DEBORAH. WE WILL MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION. I AM TO 19, I AM THAT HE I AM PROJECT PROGRAM MANAGER. >>CAN YOU PULL CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? >>SO THE WESTERN ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET IS A REAL-TIME MARKET OPERATED BY THE CALIFORNIA ISO, WHICH IS THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATOR THAT FIND THE LOWEST COST ENERGY TO SERVE REAL-TIME CUSTOMER TO MOUNT ACROSS A WIDE GEOGRAPHIC FOOTPRINT ACROSS THE ENTIRE WEST. YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE MAP TO SEE THE CURRENT AND PLANNED PARTICIPANTS THAT SPAN THE ENTIRE WEST. >>AND THE DESIGN OF THE MARKET, NOT ONLY PROVIDES FOR INTRA-ENERGY BALANCING BUT IT ALSO COMPENSATES ABOUT CITY RESOURCES LIKE HYDRO THAT PROVIDE SYSTEM RELIABILITY AND FLEXIBILITY. SO WHY IS SEATTLE CITY LIGHT’S JOINING THE MARKET? WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FOUR PRIMARY BENEFITS. AGAIN, ONE OF THE MOST COMPELLING BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED ALREADY TODAY IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT. AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT DEBRA SMITH SAID. CITY LIGHT IS THE FIRST POWER ENTITY TO JOIN IN THE NORTHWEST. THAT IS THE BIG DEAL. IT NOT ONLY DEMONSTRATES OUR ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP BUT ALSO AGAIN OUR COMMITMENT TO THE GREEN NEW DEAL. AND PARTICIPATING — >>WE LIKE THAT, THANK YOU. >>PARTICIPATING WITH OUR FLEXIBLE HYDRO CAN ALLOW FOR OFFSETTING, I WILL LEAN IN CLOSER. OUR NONRENEWABLE US, IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT IS CLEANER SUCH AS SOLAR AND WIND TO STAY ONLINE AND THIS ALLOWS FOR GREATER CARBON REDUCTION OVERALL. AGAIN, ACROSS A WIDE GEOGRAPHIC FOOTPRINT ACROSS THE WEST. AT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT, WE ARE EXTREMELY FORTUNATE TO BE SO HYDRO HEAVY. WE ARE GREEN ON OUR OWN BUT PARTICIPATING IN THIS MARKET ALLOWS US TO LEVERAGE OUR RESOURCES AND MAKE THEM GO FURTHER. SO IN ADDITION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT, IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO FURTHER OUR MISSION OF PUTTING OUR CUSTOMER OWNERS FIRST. IT IS AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM. THERE IS ENHANCED SYSTEM RELIABILITY AND IT IS BETTER GREAT VISIBILITY. FINALLY, IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR IMPROVED TREND MISSION PLANNING AND MANAGEMENT. THE THIRD BENEFIT THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IS A CORE BUSINESS BENEFITS OF EMPLOYEE GROWTH AND IMPROVED COORDINATION. THIS IS WHAT IT DOES FOR OUR PEOPLE AT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. THE FIRST EMPLOYEE GROWTH COMPONENTS, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT TRAINING THAT GOES ALONG WITH JOINING THIS MARKET. WE HAVE NEW TOOLS AND SYSTEMS WE ARE IMPLEMENTING. WE ARE ALSO UPDATING OUR NEW BUSINESS PROCESS. WE HAVE ADDED EIGHT NEW POSITIONS AS PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION EFFORT. ALSO IT HAS ALLOWED FOR EMPLOYEE GROWTH AND TO STRETCH SOME OF OUR CURRENT STAFF AND ALLOW THEM TO GAIN NEWS SKILLS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THIS AGAIN ALLOWS US TO NOT ONLY RETAIN OUR CURRENT TALENTS BUT TO ATTRACT NEW TALENT. >>AND THE IMPROVED COORDINATION PIECE, THIS PROJECT IMPACTS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DIVISIONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE UTILITY. IT IS REALLY REQUIRING US TO TALK MORE AND WORK MORE IN A COORDINATED FASHION. WHAT THIS WILL DO, NOT ONLY WILL THIS PUT US INTO A POSITION TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE MARKET BUT IT ALSO LAYS A STRONG FOUNDATION FOR UPCOMING PROJECT IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WILL NEED TO HAVE THIS IMPROVED COORDINATION. IT REALLY SETS US UP FOR SUCCESS NOW IT LOOKS FOR WORDS IN THE FUTURE. SPEAKING OF THE FUTURE, THE FOURTH BENEFIT, IT POSITIONS US FOR ADDITIONL READINESS FOR GREATER ROCKETS INTEGRATION. THIS IS A MECHANISM REALLY TO INTEGRATE A GRID. ESPECIALLY WITH THE INCREASE IN NONTRADITIONAL RESOURCES. SO MOVING ON, WHERE HAVE WE COME FROM? THIS IS NO SMALL UNDERTAKING, THE IMPLEMENTATION EFFORT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT SINCE 2016. IN OCTOBER 2016, THE COUNCIL PASSED AND APPROVED AN ORDINANCE FOR US TO REPAIR TO JOIN THE MARKET AND EXECUTE AGREEMENTS WITH THE CALIFORNIA ISO. THEN WE CAME BACK AND DID SOME BRIEFINGS IN MARCH IN 2017. AND THROUGHOUT THE SPRING AND SUMMER, COMPLETED OUR GAP ANALYSIS AND ALSO HIRED AN EXPERIENCED PROJECT MANAGER WHO TOOK A LOOK AT THE GAPS ANALYSIS AND OUR CURRENT BUDGET. SO WHAT WE DID DURING THAT TIME, WE DECIDED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR OUR PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WE ADDED ADDITIONAL LABOR, SOFTWARE INTEGRATION, CONSULTING, SUPPORT AND THEN CONTINGENCY. AND THAT BUDGET WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER OF 2017. AND RIGHT AROUND THAT TIME AS WELL, DURING THAT SPRING AND SUMMER, WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE SYSTEM. WHICH IS OUR ENERGY TRADING AND RISK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THIS IS OUR DAY-TO-DAY SOFTWARE THAT OUR MARKETING GROUP, OUR SETTLEMENTS GROUP, OUR SYSTEMS OPERATIONS GROUP USES TO TRANSACT IN THE BILATERAL MARKET. IT IS A REALLY CRITICAL SOFTWARE PIECE. SO TOGETHER WE CAME TO THE DETERMINATION TO REPLACE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM AND YOU CAN ONLY JOIN THE ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET ONCE PER YEAR. THAT IS APRIL 1. SO INITIALLY, WE WERE ANTICIPATING JOINING THE MARKET IN 2019 BUT MAKING THE SOFTWARE DETERMINATION PUSHED THE PROJECT OUT ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR. SO WITH THAT ADDITIONAL YEAR, WE ENTERED INTO A FULL RFP PROCESS. WE SELECTED A SOFTWARE VENDOR AND WE, I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE JUST CUT OVER OUR NEW ETR AM SOFTWARE ON AUGUST 1 VERY SUCCESSFULLY. THAT WAS A MAJOR OBJECT MILESTONE. SO IN ADDITION TO SOFTWARE, WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED? SO OUR TEAM HAS BEEN DOING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK AND WE ARE MAKING GREAT HEADWAY TO THE PROJECT. WE ARE EITHER ON TIME OR AHEAD OF SCHEDULE WITH ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT WORK STREAMS. WE ARE ALSO ON BUDGET. SO TOGETHER WITH OUR TEAM, WE HAVE EXECUTED ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS WITH THE ISO. WE HAVE DONE SIGNIFICANT METERING WORK SO WE HAVE COMPLETED ALL OF OUR METERING INSTALLATIONS. THESE ARE AT GENERATION AND INTER-TIES. WE ARE FINALIZING THE PROGRAMMING. OUR RISK POLICIES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. THE NETWORK MODEL, WHICH IS THE MODEL OF OUR ENTIRE SYSTEM HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE RESOURCE DATA TEMPLATE HAS ALSO BEEN COMPLETED SO THIS GOES THROUGH ALL OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR GENERATORS IN OUR INNER TIES. WE HAVE STARTED TRAINING AND THAT WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. AGAIN, WE CUT OVER THE ENERGY TRADING AND RISK MANAGEMENT SUCCESSFULLY ON AUGUST 1. WE HAVE GOTTEN ABOUT 8/2 MONTHS LAST BEFORE WE JOIN THE MARKET. SO REALLY, THE BIG PUSH IN WHAT WE WILL FOCUS ON IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PIM SOFTWARE AND THEN ALL OF THE CONNECTIVITY TESTING THE CALIFORNIA ISO. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, IT IS NOT SHOWING ON THIS. BUT TRAINING WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. THERE IS JUST SIGNIFICANT TRAINING REQUIRED FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF. THEY ARE UP, READY AND ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS NEW MARKET. AND THAT FOR THE MOST PARTS IS WHERE THE PROJECTS IS. SO — >>WE HAVE ABOUT EIGHT MORE MINUTES. I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME MORE AMENDMENTS DOCTOR? NO? WE ARE GOOD? SO ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD CALVIN? >>NO. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK THAT THIS IS THE WAY THE WHOLE INDUSTRY IS GOING TO MORE AND MORE OF THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS. THE IDEA OF BUILDING CAPACITY IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THE UTILITY NEEDS TO KEEP WORKING ON. IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. >>I WILL OFFER FROM A STAKEHOLDER PERSPECTIVE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EXCITED THAT SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IS GOING TO BE REALLY ENTERING INTO THIS NEW MARKET AND BE THE FIRST IN LEADING A PUBLIC UTILITY TO JOIN THE WESTERN ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET. WE HEARD FROM A RANGE OF ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF US ENTERING INTO THE ENERGY IMBALANCE MARKET SUCH AS FROM THAT RENEWABLE NORTHWEST FOLKS WHO WERE EARLY AND STRONG SUPPORTERS OF EI AND PARTICIPATION BY ALL NORTHWEST UTILITIES. AND THE NATURAL RESOURCE DEFENSE COUNCIL. THE BIGGEST ENVIRONMENTAL LAW ORGANIZATION THAT HAS SUPPORTED THE PIM AND THE EXPANSION OF THE WESTERN ENERGY MARKET TO FACILITATE POSITION OF THE ENERGY SECTOR TO A LESS CARBON INTENSIVE PORTFOLIO. OVERALL, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE GIVEN OUR GREEN ENERGY THAT WE PRODUCE HERE IN THE STATE. AND THROUGH SEATTLE CITY LIGHT. TO BE PARTICIPANTS AND ALSO INTO BEATERS TO THIS MARKET IN A REALLY POSITIVE WAY. THAT IS GREAT. >>CONGRATULATIONS. YOU GO LIVE FIRST AND THE SOFTWARE IS WORKING GREAT. GOOD FOR YOU. >>IF I MAY JUST QUICKLY INTERJECT, I DID WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE TIE BETWEEN THESE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE RESENTED TODAY IN TERMS OF HOW THEY REPRESENT THE TRANSFORMATION OF OUR ENERGY SYSTEM. REALLY, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT SARAH ALLUDED TO IS THE ABILITY OF THINGS LIKE THE EI M TO HELP US FURTHER UNLOCK THE VALUE AND THINGS LIKE THE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES. WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLY. THESE ARE ALL PIECES OF A PUZZLE THAT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER AND I THINK WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE DIRECTION WE ARE HEADED WITH THAT. >>GREAT. >>SO OTHER QUESTIONS? I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE HEARD ABOUT SINCE DAY ONE HERE. HAS WE WILL WITH EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION, WE WILL CONTINUE TO CHECK IN WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY. I’M HAPPY TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF THIS PARTICIPATION. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE COUNCIL RECOMMEND PASSAGE OF COUNSEL BILL 119571. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? >>ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. UNOPPOSED. GREAT. SO IT HAS PASSED. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU, THE PARTNERS WE HAVE HEARD FROM. ERIN, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AS WELL. LEADERSHIP OF CITY LIGHT IN THE EXECUTIVE’S OFFICE. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING HOW THINGS REGRESS. WE KNOW YOUR TIME FRAME IS ONGOING. SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO UPDATES AS WE HEAD INTO THE BEGINNING PART OF NEXT YEAR. WITH THAT, WE WILL BRING THIS FORWARD TO FULL COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 3 FOR CONSIDERATION AFTER THE RECESS. >>THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL NUMBERS. COULD I DO MY OTHER SHADOWED? ROB MAHONEY WHO IS BEHIND ME, THE TECHNICALLY PROJECT MANAGER BUT HE HAS BEEN SARAH’S PARTNER ALL THROUGH THIS. SO REALLY OUTSTANDING WORK IN ONE OF SEATTLE’S VERY BEST. I DON’T KNOW HE IS IN THE ROOM BUT ROBERT CROMWELL WHO IS DOING CUSTOMER SERVICE OPERATIONS HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A HUGE PART OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES ENGINE FOR THIS WORK. AND TURNED IT OVER TO TURN 25 IN GREAT SHAPE. úSO KUDOS TO BOTH OF THEM. >>>GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AS WELL AND ALL OF YOU AT THE TABLE BECAUSE PUTTING SEATTLE CITY LIGHT UP FRONT LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING WITH ALL OF THE GREEN ENERGY WORK IT IS MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR OUR CITY BUT IT ALSO DEMONSTRATES LEADERSHIP IN THE NORTHWEST THAT I APPRECIATE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WILL CONCLUDE PART ONE OF OUR AGENDA TODAY. WE HAVE CONCLUDED PRIOR TO 10 AM. THAT IS GOOD NEWS. WE ARE ON TIME. SO THANK YOU TO SEATTLE CITY LIGHT’S FOR YOUR PATIENCE. AS YOU CAN TELL, WE HAVE PACKED AGENDA THROUGH THE SUMMER AND FALL. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR GETTING US ALL TEED UP FOR THOSE BILLS. AT THIS POINT, WE WILL ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE REMAINING ITEMS ON TODAY’S AGENDA. THEY ALL RELATE TO HOTEL LEGISLATION. PART ONE IS A HOTEL SAFETY. FOR WORKERS IN THE HOTEL BUILDINGS. AT PART THREE IS RELATED TO HEALTHCARE. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO TESTIFY. THERE MAY BE MORE PEOPLE SIGNING UP SO WE WILL MAKE SURE TO GET YOU SIGNED UP THERE. AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE COPIES OF VARIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE POSTED ONLINE. AND THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE IN HARD COPY. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP. COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW YOU ARE GREAT IN THE LAST 20. LET’S SEE HOW QUICKLY WE CAN MOVE THROUGH THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT IT TO 20 MINUTES. THAT WOULD BE ONE MINUTE PER PERSON. 20 PEOPLE SIGNED UP. >>>IF YOU NEED MORE, TAKE MORE. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE. SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC EVENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DESCRIBE TO US, PARTICULARLY OF VIOLENT OR HARASSING BEHAVIOR, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHEN THOSE OCCURRED AND WHAT HAPPENED. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL RATHER THAN YOU JUST SAYING WE SUPPORT THE BILL. WE GOT THAT. I AM REALLY DEEPLY INTERESTED IN WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE IN TELLING US SOME EXAMPLES. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ALSO KNOWLEDGE THAT OR FOLKS SHARING THOSE STORIES, IT CAN BE HARD TO SHARE THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL SHARING THOSE AND ALSO FOR THE INDUSTRY FOLKS FOR BEING HERE. WE KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING EVERY SINGLE TIME AND WE I WILL ASK THE FOLKS FROM CITY LIGHT OUT THERE IF THEY CAN HEAR ME TO MAYBE TAKE THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE CORNER. WE WILL BEGIN WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY HERE. THE FIRST THREE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE, IF FOLKS COULD LINE UP TO GET US THROUGH THIS IN 20 MINUTES THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MICHAEL HERSCHER? JOHN EGBERT AND SEAN BURKE? >>>WELCOME BACK. >>GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY FIRST JOB IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY WAS AS AN ATTENTIVE. I SERVED EMPLOYEES AS A HOTEL HR DIRECTOR FOR 11 YEARS UNTIL AUGUST 1. IT IS NECESSARY TO CALL OUT THE LACK OF A PROCESS WITHOUT A FUNDAMENTAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE NUANCES OF THESE AGREEMENTS. EVEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL ADMITTED RECENTLY TO NOT UNDERSTANDING THE MOST ELEMENTARY TERMINOLOGY OF OUR INDUSTRY, CHECKOUT VERSUS STAYOVER ROOM. AS FOR THE HEALTHCARE ORDINANCE, CHANGES TO THIS COMP LOCATED LEGISLATION ARE PRESENTED TODAY JUST BEFORE YOUR VOTE. I ASK ONE OF MANY QUESTIONS. WHERE IS THE PROVISION TO ADDRESS PREMIUMS. EVERY HEALTHCARE PLAN REQUIRES SOME SORT OF EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION TO PREMIUMS. I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS IN A COMP LOCATED WAY. UNION REPRESENTATIVE EMPLOYEES MUST PAY UNDER THE HEALTH AND WELFARE TRUST IN ADDITION TO MONTHLY DUES. VIRTUALLY EVERY PLAN OFFERED CITY EMPLOYEES REQUIRES A PREMIUM CONTRIBUTION AS WELL. 100% EMPLOYER PAID GOLD LEVEL HEALTHCARE ONLY FOR NONUNION HOTEL EMPLOYEES. I WONDER HOW OUR NONPROFIT FRIENDS, FOOD SERVICE WORKERS, RETAIL CASHIERS OR EVEN YOUR OWN CITY EMPLOYEES FEEL ABOUT THAT? >>WE HAVE A CLOCK ISSUED. >>SLOW THIS DOWN. TREATED WITH THE TIME IT NEEDS WITH THE EXPERTS TO CRAFT THE LEGISLATION BECAUSE THE CONSEQUENCES ARE TOO GREAT IF YOU DON’T. THANK YOU. >>[APPLAUSE] >>MADAM CHAIR, AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THE MORNING. I AM JOHN AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE RETAIL INDUSTRY COALITION OF SEATTLE. A GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION OF 130 RETAILERS. I APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY TO URGE THE COMMITTEE TO NARROW THAT ANCILLARY HOTEL BUSINESS PROVISIONS AND ORDINATES 1195 55. THE EXPLICITLY STATED INTENT OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO APPROVE HOTEL EMPLOYEE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE MEDICAL CARE. YET THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO A COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT RETAIL BUSINESS BASED SOLELY ON THE FACT THAT IT HAS LEASED SPACE WITHIN THE HOTEL. IF PASSED, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE STRONG INCENTIVES FOR RETAILERS TO RELOCATE TO NON- HOTEL SPACE. THIS COULD RESULT IN A LARGE, VACANT RETAIL SPACES IN HOTELS ACROSS THE CITY. WE URGE YOU TO NARROW THIS DEFINITION TO ONLY THOSE BUSINESSES PROVIDING SERVICES ESSENTIAL TO THE OPERATION OF THE HOTEL. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT TESTIMONY. I WANT TO FIND FOR FOLKS. WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE HEALTHCARE BILL TODAY IS THE WHOLE LANGUAGE WE HAVE ON SEPTEMBER 5. TO REALLY REFINE THAT LANGUAGE. BUT YOUR COMMENTS ARE WELL TAKEN. IT IS PART OF THE ENTIRE THING. WE WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. >>THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEAN BURKE FOLLOWED BY KRISTI SMITH AND THEN TERRY. WELCOME BACK. GO AHEAD. >>I AM BACK AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THE SAME THING. I THINK ANCILLARY BUSINESS SHOULD BE SECLUDED FROM THE CONVERSATION. WE ARE NOT A PART OF THE HOTEL. YOU CAN GO AND DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND SINCE WE ARE NOT A PART OF IT, WE ARE A SMALL BUSINESS, IT WOULD HELP US IF WE ARE EXCLUDED FROM THIS CONVERSATION. AND EVEN A NARROWER PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE WE WERE NEVER TOLD ABOUT THIS. SO I DON’T KNOW WHERE IT IS COMING FROM. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF IT COULD BE CONSIDERED, THE CHANGES YOU ARE MAKING TO THE ANCILLARY BUSINESSES. IT DOESN’T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I WAS READING THE CHANGES YOU AMENDED. THINGS LIKE IF ANY SPACE OPENED IN THE HOTEL. WHICH IS ALMOST ALL THE CASE EVERY TIME. WE ARE NOT A HOTEL. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. >>KRISTI SMITH? TERRY AND THEN MICHAEL HIRSCH. >>GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KRISTI SMITH AND I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL. I WORKED IN HOTELS FOR ANOTHER 35 YEARS. MY FIRST JOB IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY WAS AS A CASHIER AND I HAVE WORKED ALSO AS A BANQUET BARTENDER. AND A FRONT DESK AGENT. I KNOW THE VALUE EACH EMPLOYEE BRINGS TO THEIR POSITION. AND TO THE SUCCESS OF THE HOTEL. EMPLOYEE SAFETY HOLDS TREMENDOUS IMPORTANCE TO OUR HOTEL. WE BELIEVE EVERY EMPLOYEE HAS A RIGHT TO WORK IN A SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT. WE EQUIPPED OURSELVES WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF SAFE METHODS AND TRAIN OUR EMPLOYEES IN A SAFE WAY OF DOING EACH OF THEIR JOBS. THAT IS WHY WE SUPPORTED THE PASSAGE OF THIS STATEWIDE PANIC BUTTON REQUIREMENTS AND PROVIDE THEM TO EACH OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS. WE ALSO PROVIDE OLD LEVEL QUALITY INSURANCE COVERAGE NOW AT RATES THAT ARE LOWER THAN THE CASH EXPENDITURE BEING PROPOSED IN HEALTHCARE REQUIREMENTS. HOW MUCH YOU SPEND IS NOT DETERMINED THE QUALITY OF COVERAGE. I URGE YOU TO REMOVE THE ARBITRARY EXPENDITURES AND AND SURE ANY CHANGES DO NOT REWARD EMPLOYEES FOR TURNING DOWN HEALTHCARE. I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR MONTHS THE CHALLENGES AND UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES CREATED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. WE BELIEVE THE AMENDMENT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TODAY THE FIRST SUBSTANTIALLY FROM WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON. GIVEN IT WAS JUST SHARED WITH STAKEHOLDERS LAST NIGHT. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY REVIEW IT AND PROVIDE MEANINGFUL FEEDBACK. WE REALLY REQUEST THAT YOU HOLD OFF ON VOTING ON THIS AMENDMENT TODAY UNTIL YOU GET ALL FEEDBACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>THANK YOU. TERRY? GOOD MORNING. >>GOOD MORNING. I HAVE A RESTAURANT IN THE SHERATON HOTEL. THE BUILDING, NOT IN THE HOTEL. IN THE SAME BUILDING AS THE SHERATON. AND I HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 5 YEARS. THE ANCILLARY POSITION STAYS AS IS. IT PROBABLY WON’T BE THERE ANYMORE. DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE PRICE YOU’RE PUTTING ON INSURANCE AND WHAT YOU ARE REQUIRING ME TO DO. I AM JUST A TENANT. I AM, IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED. AND I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE A POSITION AT THE TABLE. THIS IS BETWEEN ALL OF US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LINDA MORTON FOLLOWED BY AN? >>HELLO. >>MY NAME IS MICHAEL HIRSCH. >>MICHAEL, COULD YOU PULL IT UP A LITTLE BIT? >>I AM ALWAYS TOLD TO STAND UP STRAIGHT. I’M STANDING UP STRAIGHT AND PUTTING UP THE MICROPHONE STRAIGHT AS WELL. MICHAEL HIRSCH, REPRESENTING THE FAMILY OWNERSHIP OF THE 13 COINS. AND OF THE LODGE SPORTS GRILL. WE HAVE TWO IMPACTED PROPERTIES WITH THE ANCILLARY HOTEL LANGUAGE. CONCERNED WITH THE LACK OF DEFINITION AROUND THAT. ALSO CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD BE FOR DEFINED FOR AN AMENDMENT THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED TO BE PASSED TODAY. THAT 12 HOURS AGO, HAD SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE. THERE IS A CASCADE THERE THAT WE WOULD ASK THERE BE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK PUT ON. LET’S TALK ABOUT IT. WE WOULD LOVE TO ALSO, THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME WITH ME AND A CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE IF WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT TO TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS JUST ON WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE AS A BUSINESS DECISION. WE ONLY THINK THAT THE BUSINESS DECISION WE MADE TO LOCATE NEAR OR WITHIN SPITTING DISTANCE OF THE HOTEL HAS NOW MAYBE POTENTIALLY DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE IN OPERATION. IT WILL CREATE A SITUATION FROM THE CITY WHERE YOU HAVE VACANCIES THAT I’M NOT SURE ANYBODY WILL WANT TO COME IN WITH THE NEW PAST MM IT’S. THANK YOU. >>EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. >>LINDA? >>LINDA FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL CLARK. >>SO I AM LINDA MORTON AND I AM PRESIDENT OF THIS RESTAURANT ALLIANCE. I AM ALSO ON THE BOARD AT THE GSP. TOGETHER, JUST THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENT WELL OVER 5000 SMALL BUSINESSES IN SATTLE. THIS LEGISLATION IS ABOUT HOTEL WORKERS. IT IS ABOUT HOTEL EMPLOYEES. IT IS ABOUT HOTELS. ANCILLARY BUSINESSES SIGN A LEASE WITH A HOTEL AND THEY ARE NOT HOTELS. THERE ARE EMPLOYEES, NOT HOTEL EMPLOYEES. ANCILLARY BUSINESSES NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS LEGISLATION. ONE THING I WILL SAY AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER MYSELF, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THE CITY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THEY HAVE COME OUT OF THIS COUNSEL. AND IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF STRAWS. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE MANY OF THOSE STRAWS ONE BY ONE BUT IF I HAVE A LEASE IN A HOTEL PROPERTY, THIS IS MORE LIKE, RATHER THAN DEATH BY 1000 CUTS, IT IS LIKE USING GUNPOWDER. I APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER BUT THE REAL CONSEQUENCES ARE AND WHAT THIS LEGISLATION WAS INTENDED TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE. >>THANK YOU. >>WELCOME BACK. >>GOOD MORNING. >>MY NAME IS ANNETTE VANDA HIGH AND I’M THE DIRECTOR OF THE HILTON SEATTLE. I HAVE BEEN IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY FOR OVER 35 YEARS IN A MULTITUDE OF ROLES BOTH HOURLY AND MANAGEMENT. IN OUR INDUSTRY, IF WE DO NOT TAKE CARE OF OUR TEAM MEMBER FAMILY, IT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON GUEST SATISFACTION. KEEPING OUR HOUSEKEEPING STAFF SAFETY IS A PRIORITY. THE LEGISLATION FOR PANIC BUTTONS WAS INSPIRED. UNFORTUNATELY, THE ADDITIONAL ANCILLARY HOTEL BUSINESS TACKED ON IMPACTS OF BROAD RANGE NOT HOTEL EMPLOYEES AND SMALL BUSINESS. IT IS NOT HAVE THE PROPER DUE DILIGENCE OR UNBIASED REVIEW TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE. IN FACT, IT IS DESTRUCTIVE TO WHAT IT IS INTENDED TO ACCOMPLISH. THE UNITED HEALTHCARE ORDINANCE BEING INTRODUCED NEEDS FURTHER REVIEW. IT IS NOT IN ANYONE’S BEST INTEREST TO RUSH THIS AMENDMENT TODAY. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>WELCOME BACK, MICHAEL. >>THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL CLARK. I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE RENAISSANCE SEATTLE HOTEL AND I SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE SEATTLE HOTEL ASSOCIATION. WE RECEIVED AN AMENDED ORDINANCE DATED LAST NIGHT AT 5:15 PM. IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE SOLUTIONS AND THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TOGETHER. AND WITH THIS NEW DRAFT, IT DOESN’T GIVE US A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AT ALL. THE GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, IS ANCILLARY BUSINESS DISCUSSION TO SEPTEMBER. NO ONE IN THIS ROOM EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IT WAS PUBLISHED LAST NIGHT. I WOULD URGE YOU TO, WE ARE DISAPPOINTED AS A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE HAVEN’T HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW THIS FURTHER. IT COULD HAVE UNINTENDED ON SEQUENCES. I WOULD URGE YOU TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING. NOT OF US WANT ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. >>THANK YOU. >>TANK YOU, MICHAEL. >>THE NEXT THREE PEOPLE ARE JC MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO READ THIS ONE. IF THAT SOUNDS FAMILIAR? TSE ARE ING? >>GOOD MORNING, CUSTOMERS. MY NAME IS JC WORK HERE IN SEATTLE. I CAME HERE TODAY TO GIVE BACK TIME. PANIC BUTTONS, I THINK EVERYBODY IS FOR IT. HOWEVER, IF THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY UNNECESSARY, AS IT IS ALREADY STATE LAW. I CALL THIS BUSYWORK. IT IS LIKE AS IF YOU WORKED ON A MANDATORY SEATBELT ORDINANCE. WEARING SEATBELT IS IMPORTANT BUT IT IS ALREADY THE LAW. HEALTHCARE. HOTELS ALREADY PROVIDE HIGH- QUALITY HEALTH COVERAGE. THERE IS A FEDERAL LAW. THE COUNCIL SEEMS TO BE TRYING TO SKIRT FEDERAL LAW. GOOD LAWMAKERS DON’T BREAK LAWS. SO PLEASE BE GOOD LAWMAKERS. I KNOW THAT IS YOUR INTENTION. COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA, YOU PUT FORTH AN AMENDMENT THAT IS FILLED WITH INCONSISTENCIES. TODAY, IT REQUIRES GOLD LEVEL COVERAGE FOR CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNTS. IF THE EMPLOYEE IS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER DEAL, THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE TO THE EMPLOYEE IN CASH. WHY THE EXTRA PAYMENT IF THE GOAL IS HIGH-QUALITY HEALTHCARE COVERAGE IS FULFILLED? NO NEED TO REALLY CONTINUE WORKING ON THIS. YOU KNOW, WE ALL NEED TO USE OUR TIME WISELY. WE FOCUS IN THE BIG THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER, PUBLIC SAFETY, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, HOMELESSNESS AND TRANSPORTATION. WHAT WILL YOU DO? THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. >>GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOSC US. I AM A HOUSEKEEPER IN SEATTLE. I HAVE BEEN 10 YEARS IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY WHICH IS FIVE YEARS IN AFRICA AT FIVE YEARS HERE IN SEATTLE. SO BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE SEATTLE HOTEL INDUSTRY. WHICH I AM PERSONALLY IMPACTED IN A GOOD WAY. THE FIRST TIME I MOVED TO SEATTLE, WHICH IS THE HILTON, IT OPENED THE DOOR FOR ME IN THIS INDUSTRY. THEY HELPED ME IN MANY WAYS. SO I CAN PERSONALLY SEE THE RESULTS OF WHERE I AM NOW. SO THE HOTEL INDUSTRY EMPLOYERS, WHICH REALLY IMPACTED INDIVIDUALITY, EVEN FOR THOSE FIRST TIME WORKERS, IT WAS, THEY HAD NO EXPERIENCE. THEY TRAIN AND GET MORE CARRIERS IN A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. AND IN DIFFERENT POSITIONS WHICH IS A VERY GOLDEN POINT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND. UNDERLYING ON THAT, COMING TO THE GENERAL WAYS AS A HOUSEKEEPING MANAGER, INVOLVING PERSONALLY WITH LARGE NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES. I HAVE SEEN IN MANY WAYS. >>COULD YOU WRAP IT UP, SIR? WRAP UP FOR US. >>SO I HAVE SEEN MANY PROFESSIONALS IN THIS INDUSTRY. THEY HAVE BEEN ASSISTED DIVERSELY IN DIFFERENT LABELS. SO THE INDUSTRY REALLY ASSISTED’S IN WHATEVER WE APPLIED FOR, WHICH CONSIDERS THE EMPLOYER AS WELL. SO THAT, THEY KNOW HOW THEY CAN APPLY. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE AMENDMENT. >>OKAY, THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR. >>GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WORK AT THE EDGEWATER IN HOUSEKEEPING FOR 7 YEARS. HOUSEKEEPERS LIKE ME OFTEN EXPERIENCE HARASSMENT BY GUEST. WHEN HARASSMENT LIKE THIS HAPPENS, WE WISHED WE NEVER SEE THE GUEST AGAIN. ANY OF MY COWORKERS AND I ARE IMMIGRANTS AND WOMEN AND TOO OFTEN WE STAY QUIET BECAUSE WE THINK THAT NOTHING WILL BE DONE. THERE ARE VICTIMS OF ASSAULT. THE LOT MUST BELIEVE HOUSEKEEPERS HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES FORECAST. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BEFORE I LEAVE, ALL HOTEL WORKERS NEED HEALTHCARE FOR THEIR FAMILIES. THANK YOU. >>THE NEXT ARE MELODY SWIFT, STEFAN AND JUAN CARLOS? HELLO, MELODY. >>THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >>YOU CAN PULL IT ON DOWN. >>THERE YOU GO. >>I NAME IS MELODY AND I WORK AT THE HOTEL IN THE MAIN LOUNGE FOR 44 YEARS. I HAVE EXPERIENCED SEXUAL HARASSMENT AS A LOT OF US IN THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE INDUSTRY HAVE. JUST BECAUSE WE ARE IN, I SEE HERE THEY WANT TO EXCLUDE FOOD AND BEVERAGE PEOPLE FROM PROTECTIONS. FOR HELP? AND ALSO FROM HARASSMENT? WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT AND WORTH LESS THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM? I AM AS VALUED AS ANYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM. YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SIT THERE AND EXCLUDE US BECAUSE WE ARE FOOD AND BEVERAGE PEOPLE VERTICAL WE WORK HARD. WE ARE THERE ON THE HOLIDAYS WHEN YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE YOUR FAMILIES OUT. WE WORK AT NIGHT. A LOT OF US CAN’T EVEN TAKE THE BUS SERVICES BECAUSE THEY DON’T RUN. WE HAVE TO DRIVE. THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. I HAVE EXLEY BEEN PICKED UP BY CUSTOMERS BEFORE. I HAVE HAVE THEM GRAB MY ARM. I AM 69 YEARS OLD AND I HAD A MAN RUBBING HIS ARMS UP AND DOWN. TRYING TO PUT HIS ARMS AROUND ME. WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR ATTITUDES? OKAY? WE WORK HARD FOR YOU. MY TIME IS UP. >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >>STEPHAN? FOLLOWED BY ONE CARLOS? >>AND MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WANT TO APPLAUD COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA AND HER WORK ON THE HEALTHCARE ORDINANCE OF IT. THERE ARE ISSUES ADDRESSED IN THE DRAFT. THERE WILL BE MORE WORK TO DO AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THAT. IS DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT THERE ARE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT COULD EXEMPT THOUSANDS OF WORKERS WHO DESPERATELY NEED HEALTHCARE. THAT WOULD CREATE AN AMENDMENT TO SUBCONTRACT AND OUTSOURCE JOBS TO EMPLOYERS POTENTIALLY LARGE IN SIZE. IT IS NOT ABOUT SMALL EMPLOYERS WHO WOULD NOW BE EXEMPT. THE PRIVATE EQUITY FIRMS, THE REAL ESTATE AND BEST, THEY OWN ALL OF THE HOTEL BUILDINGS IN SEATTLE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST, IT IS ALMOST ALL HOTEL BUILDINGS IN SEATTLE WILL MAKE MONEY BECAUSE OF THAT WHILE WORKERS THIS OUT ON HEALTHCARE. ON THE ISSUE OF GUEST MISCONDUCT, I AM ALMOST DONE. I WILL REFER TO SOME OTHER FOLKS. I THINK WE NEED TO DO BETTER. SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT I’VE SEEN BASICALLY TAKE AWAY ANY KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR GUESTS. THEY WILL NOT EVEN BE INFORMED ANYMORE. THAT THERE WAS A COMPLAINT AGAINST THEM. THERE WILL BE NO ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN A CITY LIKE SEATTLE. THANK YOU. >>DO YOU HAVE A GROUP? >>YES. >>WE WILL GIVE YOU A MINUTE AND A HALF. >>GOOD MORNING. >>YOU’RE TRANSLATING? >>[SPANISH] >>[SPANISH] >>MY NAME IS JUAN CARLOS AND I WORK AS A COOK IN THE EDGEWATER HOTEL DURING THE PAST TWO YEARS. BEFORE THAT, I WORKED IN VARIOUS RESTAURANTS AROUND SEATTLE. >>[SPANISH] >>THIS JOB AT THE EDGEWATER WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME I WAS ABLE TO GET AN AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN FOR MY FAMILY. AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT INSURANCE PLANS THAT RESTAURANTS USUALLY OFFER TEND TO COST A LOT FOR EMPLOYEES AND OFFER VERY POOR COVERAGE FOR MEDICAL EXPENSES. >>[SPANISH] >>IF THE LAW DOESN’T REQUIRE HOTELS TO OFFER GOOD MEDICAL INSURANCE PLANS, HOTELS LIKE MINE ARE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUBCONTRACT TO THE RESTAURANT’S. >>ALL RESTAURANT WORKERS AND HOTELS DESERVE A GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN THAT ACTUALLY PAYS THE COST’S. THIS LAW IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT MYSELF AND MY COWORKERS WILL ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE GOING FORWARD. >>THANK YOU. >>[SPANISH] >>EMILY DAWSON FOLLOWED BY PORSCHE WHITE. >>WELCOME. >>GOOD MORNING. I AM EMILY FROM EMBASSY SUITES IN PIONEER SQUARE. I HAVE TWO KIDS AND A HUSBAND I AM PAYIN INSURANCE FOR AND I’M PAYING ABOUT 500 PER MONTH. 500 PER MONTH FOR ME AND MY HUSBAND AND MY TWO KIDS. THAT IS A LARGE CHUNK OF MY PAYCHECK EVERY MONTH. IF THE HEALTH INSURANCE WAS BETTER AND CHEAPER, I WOULD BE ABLE TO BITE MY SON NEW SHOES, WHICH HE JUST COMPLAINED WERE TOO TIGHT JUST A FEW DAYS AGO. I DON’T WANT TO HAVE TO STRUGGLE TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME THAT I AM PLANNING ON STRIKING WITH MY COWORKERS SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SUPPORT US. THANK YOU. >>THANK YOU. >>THE NEXT TWO SPEAKERS ARE AROUND THE CORNER AND RUNNING LATE. >>SO AS WE HAVE DONE BEFORE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE HEART OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY. IF THERE IS ANY FOLKS WHO DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO TESTIFY AT THE END, WE DID TALK ABOUT COMING BACK AT THE END FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. SO IF THEY ARE ABLE TO STAY TO THE CONVERSATION, THEY WILL BE WELCOME THEN. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTED TO SIGN UP TO TESTIFY AT THIS POINT? >>DAN, JUST AS WE ARE DOING THAT, TO DO T UP ITEM NUMBER 3 FOR US? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS NATALIE KELLY AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE WITH SEXUAL HARASSMENT FROM MY YEARS AS A DOWNTOWN AGENT. IT WAS A CONSTANT AND RAMPANT PROBLEM FOR US WORKING AT THE HOTEL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FRONT HOUSE WORKERS ARE ALSO INCLUDED. I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN I WORKED THE NIGHT SHIFT, IT WAS A DAILY EXPERIENCE, PARTICULARLY DURING HAPPY HOUR WHEN MANY GUESTS WOULD COME TO THE FRONT DESK AND SEE THE YOUNG WOMEN THERE AND ASSUME OUR PLEASANT CONVERSATION AND FLIRTATION WAS A PART OF WHAT THEY WERE PAYING FOR FOR THE GUEST EXPERIENCE. A PROBLEM I HAD IN BRINGING THIS TO MY MANAGEMENT WAS THAT MANAGERS WOULD OFTEN ATTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM. I HAD ONE MALE INTEGER WHO WOULD WELCOME GUESTS IN THE FRONT DOOR OF THE HOTEL, ESCORT THEM TO THE FRONT DESK AND SAY, WHICH OF THESE TWO BEAUTIFUL WOMEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE TOOK YOU IN TODAY. YOU CAN PICK WHICH ONE YOU THINK IS PRETTIEST. WHEN I WOULD TRY TO ADDRESS THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS WITH GUESTS, HARASSMENT AND SOMETIMES GUEST VIOLENCE WHEN I HAD A GUEST REACH ACROSS THE FRONT DESK AND PLACE HIS HAND ON MY FOUR HEAD, I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO. I FELL TO THE FLOOR. I RECORDED THE INCIDENT IN AN INCIDENT LOG LOOKED AND SAW THAT I MANAGER ERASED IT BECAUSE HE DIDN’T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED IN PART OF THE GENERAL MANAGER. I HAD ZERO SUPPORT AS A FRONT- LINE WORKER AND HAD A SYSTEM WITH THE BELLMAN AND A FELLOW FRONT DESK AGENT TO TAKE TURNS HIDING IN THE BELL CLOSET WHEN I GUEST WAS COMING BACK TO CHECK OUT. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THE PEOPLE IN THAT POSITION HAVE THE SUPPORT AND PROTECTION AS WELL. >>THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. HAVE TO MORE FOLKS THAN I WILL CALL IT GOOD. LEAH AND MIKE. >>HELLO. I REPRESENT SEVERAL HOTELS FROM THE HUMAN RESOURCES SIDE OF THE CITY. >>YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? >>LEAH. THE DRAFT THAT WE RECEIVED LAST NIGHT, THE HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURES PEAS, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. THAT NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THERE ARE CURRENTLY 24% HIGHER THAN WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING. AND WE DO OFFER GOLD LEVEL COVERAGE CURRENTLY TO OUR TEAM AND CONTINUE TO DO SO. THAT IS FOR THE 2019 RATES. SO THE, I AM NERVOUS THAT THE 2020 RATES WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND MAKE THAT NUMBER HIGHER . IN THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN HR, I’VE NEVER SEEN A 24% INCREASE IN BENEFITS YEAR OVER YEAR. THAT IS DRAMATIC. I ALSO BELIEVE THE DRAFT, IF I WAS READING IT RIGHT, SAID AN EMPLOYER COULD MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO AN HSA OR HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT. IN LIEU OF THAT. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN, I NEED TIME TO RESEARCH THIS FOR THE. AN HSA IS TIED TO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN. I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT A HIGH DETECTABLE PLAN QUALIFIES AS WASHINGTON OLD LEVEL COVERAGE. I AM NOT SURE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THAT IN THERE. AS WE HAVE HEARD, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS, TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERTS IN THIS TYPE OF THING AND PROVIDE MORE FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. >>I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. HELLO, MIKE. >>GOOD MORNING COME A COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. I AM MIKE. IN OCTOBER OF LAST, LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA WAS CONSIDERING SIMILAR HOTEL ORDINANCES. WE HAVE SEEN MANY EXAMPLES BETWEEN OUR CITY AND THERE’S CONSIDERING THIS LEGISLATION. LONG BEACH CITY COUNCIL COMMISSIONED A STUDY ON THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF VARIOUS HOTEL ORDINANCES. IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, I INVITE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. LET’S GET TO PAGE 20 WHERE THE STUDY FOUND THE FOLLOWING. ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THIS LEGISLATION COULD BE EASILY ABSURD BY HOTELS, THEY FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE HOW THE HOTEL OPERATES AND DRAMATICALLY IMPACTS THE PROFITABILITY OF THE HOTELS. THIS MAY DAMPEN THE ABILITY FOR INVESTMENTS IN IMPROVED PARTIES ON SALES PRICES IN THE FUTURE. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS FLOW FROM THE POTENTIAL FOR ORDINANCES, ORDINANCE PROVISIONS TO MAKE FUTURE PROGRAMS FEASIBLE. ASSESSOR, WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IS THAT THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION, THE INCENTIVE TO KEEP BUILDING HOTELS IN OUR CITY WOULD BE GONE OR MUCH LOWER. THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS IN MY OPINION ARE SHORTSIGHTED BUT HAVE MASSIVE LONG-TERM IMPACTS TO THE ECONOMIC HEALTH OF OUR CITY THAT ARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED. THIS IS TOTALLY IMBALANCED. AND LIMITING THIS AMENDMENT, I AM ALMOST DONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. AND LAMENTING THIS AMENDMENT PROVIDED LESS THAN 14 HOURS AGO FOR COMMENT. AT THIS QUICK OF A PACE IS IRRESPONSIBLE. IT MAY IMPACT TAX REVENUES IN THE LONG-TERM WHICH HELP FUND OUR CITY STREETS, PUBLIC SERVICES AND PAYING OFF THE DEBT OF THE WASHINGTON STATE CONVENTION CENTER. ONE LAST NOTE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN $12,500 TO STARTED THIS. BY OUTSIDE MONEY NORTH OF $150,000 IS BEING USED TO IMPACT YOUR DECISIONS. THANK YOU. >>I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ARE COMING FROM. I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. >>SO WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. I WOULD LIKE FOR CENTRAL STUFF TO WALK US THROUGH THE TWO PARTS THAT WE WILL CONSIDER TODAY. ONE IS PART ONE AND THE OTHER IS PART THREE. BEFORE WE READ ITEMS INTO THE RECORD, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO, FOR JOINING COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW AND I. DAN AND KARINA WERE GOING TO DO HOTEL WORKER HEALTHCARE FIRST. AND THEN WE WILL DO HOTEL WORKER SAFETY AS I AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM OUR AGENDA. COULD YOU READ INTO THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE? AND #4? AND THEN WE WILL DO ITEMS THREE WHICH IS MEDICAL CARE AND ITEM FOR WHICH IS ARE HOTEL SAFETY PROTECTIONS. >>ADDENDUM ITEM NUMBER THREE. COUNCIL BELT 119555 AND ORDINANCE RELATING TO EMPLOYMENT IN SEATTLE. REQUIRING CERTAIN EMPLOYERS TO MAKE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURES TO OR ON BEHALF OF CERTAIN EMPLOYEES FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPROVING ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS COUNCIL BELT 119557, AND ORDINANCE RELATING TO EMPLOYMENT IN SEATTLE, REQUIRING CERTAIN EMPLOYERS TO TAKE CERTAIN ACTIONS TO PREVENT, PROTECT AND RESPOND TO VIOLENT OR HARASSING CONDUCT BY GUEST’S. FOR A BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. >>I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST ASK IF WE COULD IDENTIFY WHAT AMENDMENTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING. I HAVE A STACK OF THINGS THAT CAME IN AT 5:00 AND READ THEM AT 10 PM LAST NIGHT. PICKED SOMETHING UP AT MIDNIGHT WAS READING IT THIS MORNING AT 6:30 AM. I AM REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US. [APPLAUSE] >>WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, WE WILL PROJECT THEM ONTO THE SCREEN. WE HAVE TO STRECKER BILLS, ONE IS A BASELINE STRECKER BILL TO HOTEL HEALTHCARE AND ONE IS A STRECKER BILL TO THE SAFETY ORDINANCE. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FIRST WE WILL WALK THROUGH THE DRAFT THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED AS A STRIKER TO THE BASELINE BILL. WE ALSO HAVE REDLINE DIVERSIONS AND I HOPE IN THE FUTURE WE CAN HAVE THESE ON DIFFERENT COLORED PAPER. JUST SOMETHING I HAVE SEEN IN OLYMPIA WHICH HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHICH DOCUMENT WE ARE LOOKING AT. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE FIRST DISCUSSION, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT D 2. THIS RELATES TO HEALTH CARE EXPENDITURES AND WE WILL WALK THROUGH THE BASE OF THE AMENDED LEGISLATION. AND THEN WE WILL CONSIDER VARIOUS AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN PROPOSED BY COUNSEL COLLEAGUES TO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. WE WILL SEE WHERE THEY FIT INTO THE SPACE AMENDMENT. >>FOR THE RECORD, DAN WITH COUNSEL CENTRAL STUFF. I AM A DEPUTY RECTOR. >>I AM 23 ALSO WITH COUNSEL CENTRAL STAFF. >>CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA , WOULD YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER THE KEY CHANGES? BEFORE DIVING INTO ANY PARTICULARS? >>THAT WOULD BE GOOD. BEFORE WE DO, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE HAVE ENGAGED OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND MANY OF US WERE ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DESIRED LANGUAGE WAS AND AS WE RUN THESE ITEMS THROUGH OUR LEGAL TEAM, THERE’S ALWAYS THE RISK THEY REWORD THINGS AND OFFER SUGGESTIONS THAT ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU SPEND TIME WORKING ON LEGISLATION AND DON’T SEE THAT EXACT LANGUAGE REFLECTED. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN PROVIDING US AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK OVER THE LAST MONTH. WE HAVE HOPEFULLY INCLUDED SOME OF THE CORE COMPONENTS HERE AND WILL KEEP ACCEPTING FEEDBACK JUST AS AN OVERALL MESSAGE FOR FOLKS TODAY. PLEASE REMEMBER WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET INTO AMENDMENTS ON THE ANCILLARY BUSINESS SECTION. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SAVING FOR SEPTEMBER 5. WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER HEALTHCARE AND SAFETY PROTECTIONS TODAY. BUT WE WILL NOT VOTE ANYTHING OUT OF COMMITTEE. THERE MIGHT BE A VOTE ON VARIOUS MOMENTS BUT NOTHING WILL LEAVE COMMITTEE SO WE CAN ALL HOLD IT AGAIN FOR US TO CONSIDER ALL FOUR ELEMENTS TOGETHER. WE CAN SEE THE FULL PACKAGE BEFORE VOTING IT OUT OF COMMITTEE. GO AHEAD. >>OKAY. SO IN BRIEF, AS COUNCIL MEMBER MOSQUEDA SAID. IT IS THE SUITE OF BILLS THAT WOULD PROVIDE PROTECTIONS FOR HOTEL WORKERS THAT PLACE THE INITIATIVE 124, WHICH HAS BEEN PUT ON HOLD BY THE COURTS AT THIS POINT. THIS PARTICULAR BILL WOULD LIMIT ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE. IT IS HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURES RELATED. THE BILL WOULD REQUIRE THAT QUALIFYING HOTELS WITH A DISCUSSION ABOUT ANCILLARY HOTEL BUSINESSES TO FOLLOW ON SEPTEMBER 5, MAKE A MONTHLY HEALTHCARE REQUIRED EXPENDITURE. THAT THE AMOUNTS ARE SET TO APPROXIMATELY A PERCENTAGE OF THE COST OF THE VISUAL PLAN ON THE HEALTH BENEFIT EXCHANGE. THE AMOUNTS DEPEND ON WHETHER AN EMPLOYEE HAS EITHER A SPOUSE OR A DOMESTIC OFFER. IT GENERALLY DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE EMPLOYEE HAS DEPENDENTS OR NO DEPENDENTS. >>MAYBE WANT TO HOLD UNTIL THE END? WE HAVE TESTIMONY TODAY ON TWO SIDES. ONE IS WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EMPLOYEES ARE COVERED. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, DEPENDING UPON THE LANGUAGE HERE, IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE HOTELS. SOME OF WHICH HAVE NEGOTIATED GOLD LEVEL PLANS. WOULD YOU EXPLAIN WITH THE CURRENT LANGUAGES? HOW WE ARE GETTING COVERAGE FOR EMPLOYEES BUT ALSO NOT WITH THE HOTELS IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE PAYING MORE FOR LESS? >>YES. THE TERM OF, THAT IS CREATED IN THE LEGISLATION, IT IS REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURES. THAT IS, AS I WAS JUST DESCRIBING, A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT VARIES BY THE TYPOLOGY OF THE EMPLOYEES FAMILY SITUATION. THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN THE BASE LEGISLATION THAT WAS INTRODUCED AND REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE WAS INTENDED TO BE A VALUE THAT IS 100% OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BUYING GOLD LEVEL PLANS ON THE HEALTH EXCHANGE IN KING COUNTY. >>DOES THAT MEAN 100% WITH NO DEDUCTIBLE? >>IT IS 100% OF WHAT A GOLD LEVEL PLAN COSTS. AND THAT IS TYPICALLY ONE THAT WOULD HAVE AN EXTENDED 80% COVERAGE FOR THE EMPLOYEE AND THE EMPLOYEE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REMAINING RUGHLY 20%. AND SOME COMBINATION OF DEDUCTIBLE, CO-PAY, PREMIUM RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES OUT OF THE POCKET OF THE EMPLOYEE. THE OTHER 80% IS OF THE ANTICIPATED TOTAL COST THAT ARE COVERED BY THE EMPLOYER. >>WE GIVE A QUICK EXAMPLE HERE. WE KNOW BOTH FROM EXPERIENCE AND FROM THE FOLKS WHO HAVE COME TO TESTIFY THAT THE INDIVIDUAL MARKET ON THE WESTERN HEALTH BENEFITS EXCHANGE IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES TO WHAT COVERAGE WOULD COST FOR LARGE EMPLOYERS. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. WITH THIS DRAFT, IT ATTEMPTS TO TAKE A HAIRCUT. A HAIRCUT FROM THE WASHINGTON HEALTH BENEFIT EXCHANGE, LOOKING AT THE GOLD PLAN AS A BENCHMARK FOR WHAT HIGH QUALITY CARE IS. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE THE BUSINESSES WHO HAVE OFFERED A GOLD LEVEL PLAN AFTER AND PRIOR TO PASSAGE OF INITIATIVE 124. IF GOLD LEVEL PLAN IS OUR STANDARD AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS TIED TO AN ACTUAL REAL VALUE 80-20% SPLIT. FRANK WOULD, ACCORDING TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, IT IS WELL DEFINED AND COULD BASICALLY BE A SIX POINT SPREAD. IT COULD BE AS LOW AS 76% OF REAL VALUE. IF YOU USE THE ACTUAL VALUE THAT IS ALLOCATED TO THE GOLD LEVEL PLAN IN THE INDIVIDUAL MARKET, YOU RECOGNIZE THAT BEING A GOOD PLAN, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS MORE AFFORDABLE FOR LARGE EMPLOYERS TO OFFER THAT EQUIVALENT QUALITY PLAN TO THEIR EMPLOYEES AT A DISCOUNTED RATE. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS DISCOUNTED THE AMOUNT THAT IS BEING REQUIRED IN THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO MORE ACCURATELY REFLECT THE NUMBERS THAT WE SEE FOR WHAT EMPLOYERS WILL PAY. I WANT TO AGAIN EXPRESS MY INTEREST IF INDIVIDUALS IN THE INSURANCE WORLD OR THE INDUSTRY LIKE TO SHARE WITH US INFORMATION THAT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE ASSIGNED TO ANY PLAN OR ANY EMPLOYER THAT COULD GIVE US A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU’RE SAYING. IF IT IS 24% LESS THAN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THAT AGGREGATE. BUT FROM THE NUMBERS WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR WITH THE ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTED OUT FOR, ABOUT 20% LESS THAN INDIVIDUAL MARKETS IN THE EXCHANGE FOR A GOLD LEVEL PLAN IS ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE SEEN. WE WANT TO BE ACCURATE IN HOW WE DISCOUNTED THAT. THAT IS WHY YOU SEE ABOUT A 20% HAIRCUT. 20% REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNTS WE ORIGINALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT. WITH THE EMPHASIS OF WANT TO STRIVE TOWARDS THIS GOLD LEVEL PLAN WHICH YOU SEE DEFINED IN THE LEGISLATION AS GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT. AND THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT MANY OF THE INDUSTRY HAS ALREADY OFFERED GOLD LEVEL AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THAT. FOR THOSE WHO DON’T, WE NEED SOME SORT OF ALTERNATIVE FOR COMPENSATION. >>SO MAYBE I AM INTERRUPTING TOO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION BUT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS, LEAH BARNES SAID THAT THE PREMIUMS ARE 24% INCREASE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? >>I BELIEVE, IF I CAN, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG. EVEN WITH THE REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED HERE, THE EXPERIENCE THAT SHE HAS FOR THE PLANS SHE WORKS WITH IS ABOUT 24% LESS THAN THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS LISTED HERE. SO THE CONVERSATION I THINK WOULD BE, ARE WE ABLE TO GET A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE DOLLAR RANGE FOR OTHER HOTELIERS IN THIS SECTOR WHO ARE THE LARGEST GROUP EMPLOYERS AND COULD WE GRAB AN AVERAGE OF THE AREA? WE LOOKED AT WAS THE LARGEST FOR PLANS IN KING COUNTY. TO TRY TO GET A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING AND TO BE ACCURATE. WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE TIED TO THE QUALITY THAT IS OFFERED IN úTHE PLAN. YOU SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE LEGISLATION. HAVING THOSE TYPES OF NUMBERS IS VERY HELPFUL IN TRYING TO GET AN AVERAGE IN SOME OF OUR LARGEST EMPLOYERS. IT WOULD BE 24% LESS. AND A FURTHER HAIRCUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN CALCULATE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY. >>THIS REQUIRED IT TO BE 25% HIGHER. SO THE AMOUNT THAT SHE IS PAYING IS 24% LOWER. >>WE ARE GOOD. >>I AM APOLOGIZING HERE. I AM REALLY CONFUSED. AND I FELT LIKE I AM COMING INTO THIS. YOU KNOW THAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF MAKING SURE THAT EMPLOYEES GET A HIGH QUALITY HEALTH LAND. SO I AM, MAYBE THIS IS JUST FIRST IMPRESSION. IT CAN BE EXPLAINED. BUT I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE GETTING THIS QUALITY HEALTHCARE THAT WE NEED FOR THE WORKERS AT A PRICE AND IS THERE A REASONABLE APPROACH THAT HOTEL YEARS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND? YOU COULD CLARIFY THIS FOR US. >>WELL, I HOPE, I WILL CONTINUE WITH MY PRESENTATION. I HOPE IT BEGINS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONFUSION THAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING. BUT I CAN CERTAINLY DIVE INTO MORE DETAIL IF I DON’T CHECK A BOX. SO THE LEGISLATION AS THE CHAIR WAS DESCRIBING, IT IS ESTABLISHED IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF FAMILY SITUATIONS. THE SUBSTITUTE BILL THAT IS BEFORE YOU WOULD CHANGE THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BY REDUCING EACH CATEGORY OF EXPENDITURE BY 20%. REFLECTING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT EMPLOYERS PARTICULARLY LARGE EMPLOYERS WITH MANY EMPLOYEES MAY HAVE ACCESS TO, AS YOU HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY IN THIS MEETING AND IN OTHERS, TO MORE FAVORABLE RATES THAN ARE AVAILABLE ON THE INDIVIDUAL HEALTH EXCHANGE. SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FROM THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION HAVE BEEN DECREASED BY 20%. FOR THIS TERM, THE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURES THAT HAS TO BE SPENT FOR EACH QUALIFYING EMPLOYEE EACH MONTH. THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WHATEVER LEVEL THEY ARE ASKED MAY BE SPENT AT THE CHOICE OF THE EMPLOYER. THE EMPLOYER HAS THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS. THEY CAN EITHER PROVIDE QUALIFYING HEALTHCARE ITSELF TO THEIR EMPLOYEES IN A FORM OF INSURANCE PREMIUMS, REIMBURSEMENTS FOR QUALIFYING OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSES OR HEALTHCARE SAVINGS ACCOUNT CONTRIBUTIONS. THAT IS ONE CATEGORY OF HOW THEY COME A HOW AN EMPLOYER CAN CHOOSE TO MEET THE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE AMOUNT. THEY CAN ALSO MAKE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION AVAILABLE TO THE EMPLOYEE. THEY CAN DO THAT INSTEAD OF ENTIRELY PROVIDING THE QUALIFYING HEALTHCARE EXPENSES. OR THEY CAN DO SOME COMBINATION OF THE TWO. SO LONG AS THE, THAT IT ADDS UP TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE PER MONTH. EMPLOYEES ARE STILL ABLE UNDER THE SUBSTITUTE BILL, AS THEY WERE WITH THE ORIGINAL INTRODUCED BILL, TO OPT OUT ALTOGETHER FROM THE PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL. IF THEY HAVE A GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT COVERAGE AND THEY WANT TO AVOID POTENTIAL COMPLICATIONS. POTENTIAL COMPLICATIONS OF COORDINATION OF BENEFITS. THAT IS THE BIG PICTURE. OF WHAT THE BILL DOES AND THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE BILL DOES, IT CHANGES THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THESE FOUR DIFFERENT TYPOLOGIES OF FAMILY SITUATIONS. FOR HOW MUCH THE EMPLOYER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UNDER THAT REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURES IN TERMS OF MONTHLY AMOUNTS. IF THE CHAIR WISHES, I CAN GO THROUGH PAGE BY PAGE AND DESCRIBE ALL OF THE DETAILED AMENDMENTS IN THE REDLINE VERSION. IT IS UP TO YOU. >>>COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD? >>I HOPE YOU CAN RESTATE AGAIN THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH AN EMPLOYER CAN OPT OUT? >>I’M SORRY. IF I SAID THAT I MISSPOKE. AN EMPLOYEE CAN OPT OUT. >>SO THE EMPLOYEECAN OPT OUTS IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THE EMPLOYEE ALREADY HAS A GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT PLAN FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. EITHER THEY HAVE PURCHASED IT ON THEIR OWN OR THEY HAVE A SECOND EMPLOYER OR THEY ARE MARRIED TO SOMEONE OR HAVE A DOMESTIC PARTNER WHO HAS PROVIDED THEM WITH HEALTHCARE INSURANCE. SO LONG AS THEY SIGN A WAIVER THAT SAYS THEY HAVE GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT COVERAGE THEY CAN OPT OUT OF RECEIVING ANY FURTHER INSURANCE OR PAYMENTS FROM THEIR EMPLOYER. AN EMPLOYEE WOULD ONLY RATIONALLY DO THAT IF THEY WERE, IF THEY DIDN’T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE HASSLE OF SWITCHING DOCTORS AND MAYBE EVEN HOSPITALS ALTOGETHER BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS THEY GETS UNDER THEIR OWN INSURANCE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE. >>IT ALLOWS THE EMPLOYEE TO OPT OUT IN THOSE INSTANCES THAT’S THE EMPLOYER’S OFFER MEETS THE HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE RATE FOR THE EMPLOYEE. IF THE EMPLOYER IS OFFERING A GOLD PLAN, THE EMPLOYEE CAN OPT OUT. >>THAT IS CORRECT. >>OF THE THINGS WE HEARD. >>IT IS CORRECT THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT. THE EMPLOYEE THEMSELVES ALREADY HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE OLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT PLANS. A SEPARATE ONE FROM THE ONE OFFERED FROM THE EMPLOYER. >>A SEPARATE ONE? >>GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT HEALTHCARE PLAN. THE EMPLOYEE. >>IT COULD BE COMING FROM THE EMPLOYER. A PLAN COMING FROM THE EMPLOYER. >>SEPARATE FROM THE EMPLOYER, EITHER A SECONDARY EMPLOYER OR FAMILY MEMBER WHO HAS COVERED THEM, OR THEY HAVE PURCHASED THEIR OWN HEALTHCARE. THAT IS A PRECURSOR TO BEING ABLE TO WAIVE COVERAGE. >>I’M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE’S A CIRCUMSTANCE UNDER WHICH THE EMPLOYER OFFERING A GOLD PLAN COULD HAVE THEIR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THIS ORDINANCE FULLY ADDRESSED. >>IF AN EMPLOYER OFFERS A GOLD LEVEL PLAN. >>WITHOUT HAVING TO PLAY ANY EXTRA MONEY. >>IF IT COSTS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE EXTRA. >>I THINK THAT IS THE ISSUE. >>THAT IS IT. >>I AM JUST WONDERING. >>I HAVE A SUGGESTION. I HAVE A SUGGESTION AND I AM GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE BECAUSE I HAVEN’T HAD A CHANCE TO CHAT WITH THE CENTRAL STAFF ABOUT THIS. IT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL. WE KNOW IT IS HEALTHCARE THAT WE ARE STRIVING TO OFFER HERE. NOT ASKED DOLLAR AMOUNTS. WE HAVE THE TIME, THAT IS THE 20% HAIRCUT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. OR POTENTIALLY ANY 4% ON TOP OF THAT. THE 20% HAIRCUT THAT WE HAVE OFFERED. IT IS NOT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WE ARE STRIVING FOR. IT IS THE QUALITY OF THE HEALTHCARE. >>ALL RIGHT. >>I THINK TO LEGISLATE A DOLLAR AMOUNT DOES NOT ANTICIPATE A CHANGE IN THE MARKET IN THE FUTURE. >>BUT WE HAVE, THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE ALSO HAVE INCLUDED IN OTHER PLACES IN THE LEGISLATION A MEDICAL INFLATION RATES THAT IS TIED TO A PUBLISHED AMOUNT THAT COMES FROM CMS THAT LOOKS AT THE PRIVATE MARKET AND THE LARGE GROUP MARKET. IN TERMS OF INFLATION, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THAT GOING FORWARD. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION BECAUSE I GOAL IS THE SAME AS YOURS. THAT IS THE SAME AS FOLKS FROM THE INDUSTRY AND WHAT WE’VE HEARD ABOUT, WE WANT TO GIVE THE QUALITY OF THE PLAN. BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO CHAIR THIS COMMITTEE, I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AS A VERBAL AMENDMENT TO THIS. I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK INCLUDED. WE HAVE ALSO GOTTEN GREAT ADVICE FROM OUR TEAM BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT DESIRE, THERE IS LANGUAGE I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND. DAN, PLEASE DON’T COME IN SLOPPY ON THE HAND. AT THE TOP OF PAGE 10, I DON’T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS IN REAL TIME, SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT. AT THE TOP OF PAGE 10, LINE 1 AND TWO, BASICALLY, WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE IS THAT IF AN EMPLOYER PROVIDES EMPLOYER- SPONSORED COVERAGE WITH AN úACTUARIAL VALUE EQUAL TO OR BETTER THAN THE GOLD LEVEL PLAN ISSUED IN THE EXCHANGE, THAT EMPLOYER HAS SATISFIED THE MONTHLY HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE AS CALCULATED. AND THEN, YOU WOULD PUT A PERIOD AFTER C AND THEN YOU WOULD CROSS OUT AND IF AN EMPLOYER AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLS. THIS ALLOWS FOR AUTOMATIC ENROLLMENT AND CLARIFIES WITH THE LANGUAGE LOOKS LIKE. IT IS MY DESIRED LEG WHICH AT THIS POINT. I THINK IT IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE ATTEMPT TO GET THE HIGH QUALITY CARE THAT COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO, I KNOW YOU’RE INTERESTED IN IT. WE INCLUDED ANOTHER AMENDMENT THERE. IT IS THE INTENT TO GET AT HOW AN INDIVIDUAL COULD RECEIVE HIGH-QUALITY CARE AND HOW AN EMPLOYER COULD SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THIS LAW. >>I LOVE WHERE YOU ARE GOING. WILL ALL OF THE REST OF THIS BE ELIMINATED? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOT ADEQUATE TIME TO SEE WHAT IS HERE. RATHER THAN JUMPING TO A CONCLUSION AT THE END OF TODAY. I LIKE THE DIRECTION YOU ARE GOING. >>I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THE ENTHUSIASM HERE. SO THAT LANGUAGE WOULD SAY, I DON’T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO AMEND IT IN THE MOMENT BUT IT WOULD SAY AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO OR BETTER THAN A GOLD LEVEL PLAN OFFERED IN THE HEALTH BENEFITS EXCHANGE. AND AT THE, THERE, IT WOULD SAY THAT EMPLOYER HAS SATISFIED, YOU CAN CROSS OUT WHETHER PARTIAL SATISFACTION. AND CROSS OUT OF. THAT EMPLOYER HAS SATISFIED THE MONTHLY HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE AS CALCULATED. A PERIOD BEHIND C. IF AN EMPLOYER AND THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLS. THE REST OF THE CONTENTS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. BECAUSE IT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IN MANY WAYS, FOR SOME OF OUR EMPLOYERS, IT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE ENROLLMENT. AUTOMATIC AND ROMAN. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A WAIVER REQUIREMENT SO THAT ANY EMPLOYEE AND THEIR DEPENDENTS, THE SPOUSES AND THE MYSTIC PARTNERS WHO MIGHT HAVE OTHER COVERAGE EQUALLY AS GOOD, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACT OUT AND THERE IS CLEAR LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM VARIOUS ENTITIES TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS NOT NECESSARY FOR SOME EMPLOYEES TO HAVE HEALTHCARE COVERAGE. IF THEY HAVE GREAT COVERAGE WITH THEIR SPOUSE. IF THEIR KIDS HAVE COVERAGE THROUGH SOMETHING US. IF THEY ARE ON VA ASSISTANCE, MAYBE THEY DON’T NEED THIS HEALTH COVERAGE, RIGHT? THAT IS MY GOAL. DAN, I AM SURE YOU ARE NERVOUS ABOUT THAT BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND ON THE SPOT. >>NOT AT ALL. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST AND OFFER UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS THAT KARINA AND I HAVE HEARD AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR INTENT IS. RATHER THAN DRAFTING ON THE FLY, IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION FOR WHAT TO BRING BACK AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING, WE CAN RING YOU SEVERAL OPTIONS OFF-LINE AND DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. I WEIGHED, MY SUGGESTION WAS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN THE DIRECTION BUT NOT INCLUDED IN THIS AMENDMENT INSOFAR AS THE LEGISLATION WILL REMAIN IN COMMITTEE AND NOT BE VOTED OUT. >>I WILL NOT AGREE TO THAT YET. I WILL TAKE YOUR CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT BILL TODAY. BUT I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN THAT WE HAVE HEARD BOTH FROM WORKERS AND FROM THE INDUSTRY THAT THIS IS NOT HITTING THAT SHARED GOAL WE TALKED ABOUT. I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE DID HAVE LANGUAGE THAT ENVISIONED WHERE WE ALL WENT AHEAD BEFORE LEAVING TODAY SO PEOPLE DON’T FEEL ANXIOUS OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. WE ALSO KNOW WE WILL GET FEEDBACK FROM OUR EAGLE TEAM AND OTHERS BUT I WILL HOLD ON ANSWERING THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW. I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE ON THAT. WE MIGHT WANT TO AMEND LIKE WE HAVE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE DO. >>COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD? COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO ? YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP MOMENTS AGO? >>I AM GOOD. >>>DID YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? >>I THINK IT IS PROBABLY BEST FOR DAN TO CONTINUE WITH PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION. >>THANK YOU. I LIKE TO DO WHAT I WANT TO DO. >>GO AHEAD. >>SO DID YOU WANT ME TO GO TO THE TOP AND GO PAGE BY PAGE? I THINK THAT DESCRIBES THE SUBSTANTIVE ELEMENTS OF THE BILL AND THE KEY CHANGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE SUBSTITUTE BILL. IF YOU OR YOUR COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE ME TO WALK THROUGH PAGE BY PAGE, I CAN DO THAT AS WELL. I HAVE FEAR THAT IT MIGHT TAKE A BIT OF TIME BECAUSE IT IS A LONG BILL. >>IF WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKED TO VOTE ON SOMETHING TODAY, WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME CLARITY ABOUT WITH THE DOLLAR NUMBERS ARE AND ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE, I UNDERSTAND, IF THE EMPLOYER HAS SATISFIED THE HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE. IS THERE STILL A REQUIREMENT FOR A CONTRIBUTION TO THE EMPLOYEE? >>THAT WOULD NOT BE THE INTENT HERE. I THINK THE WAY WE HAVE BOTH DRAFTED THAT AND ALSO SUGGESTED TO AMEND IT, IT WOULD MEAN THEY HAD A SATISFIED THAT. >>DO WANT TO DO A WALK- THROUGH? >>EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE DESCRIBING WHAT HE HAS DISCUSSED AS SORT OF THE SUBSTANCE OF THE CHANGES, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF CHANGE. A WALK-THROUGH WOULD BE HELPFUL. >>ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH SCROLLING THROUGH AND TALKING ABOUT IT? >>WE CONSUME OUTS YOU CAN SEE MORE TEXTS AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU’D LIKE. >>THIS IS NOW THE EIGHTH HOUSING HEALTH ENERGY AND WORKERS RIGHTS COMMITTEE THAT IS FOCUSED ON THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR FLEXIBILITY AND WILLINGNESS TO THINK THROUGH THESE ITEMS. WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. >>COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO? >>I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK BOTH FOR CENTRAL STAFF AND FOR COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA’S OFFICE. I APPRECIATE YOU GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH THE WALK-THROUGH. >>OKAY. ON PAGE 1, THERE IS A NEW RECITAL. I WON’T READ IT OUT LOUD BUT I WILL JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IT. IT HELPS ESTABLISH THE INTENT OF THE BILL. AND THE COUNCIL BILL IF THEY SUPPORT IT. AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED ON PAGE 2, ANCILLARY HOTEL BUSINESS, THE DEFINITION THAT IS STRICKEN, IT IS REPLACED WITH A NOTE THAT THIS SUBJECT WILL BE TAKING UP WITH A 95 MIDI MEETING. ON PAGE 3, THERE IS A DEFINITION FOR A COVERED EMPLOYEE. THE DEFINITION OF DEPENDENCE. IF I COULD JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO DEPENDENTS AS THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS. >>BUT BOTH OF THOSE CAME FROM FEEDBACK. WE ARE HAPPY TO INCLUDE THAT. >>SO COLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT A NEW DEFINITION THAT MEANS WHAT IT MEANS EFFECTIVELY IN THE WASHINGTON HEALTH AND IF IT EXCHANGE AND THE ACA. >>THAT MEANS AT THE PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE, JUST IN CASE THERE ARE FUTURE CHANGES TO THE FEDERAL ACA. >>ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS SHOW UP ON MY 20. THAT IS KNOWN THAT THOSE BENEFITS ARE INCORPORATED IN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. >>A SUGGESTION FROM SOME OF THE STAKHOLDERS THAT WE CLARIFIED AS WELL. >>SO THERE HAD BEEN A DEFINED TERM RATE OF INFLATION AND THAT HAS BEEN REPLACED AND MODIFIED BY A NEW TERM MEDICAL INFLATION THAT CLARIFIES HOW THE MEDICAL INFLATION INDEX WILL BE DETERMINED ANNUALLY. LATER IN THE BILL, WHEN WE GET TO IT, WHEN THAT CHANGE IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT FLOWS FROM THE MEDICAL INFLATION RATE, HOW AND WHEN THOSE GET POSTED AND COMMUNICATED TO EMPLOYERS, THEY KNOW WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE BEFORE THOSE COME INTO EFFECT. >>ARE THESE RATES REGULATED IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD AFFECT THEM IS INFLATION? OR LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, COULD THERE BE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THE CITY SETTING MINIMUM INSURANCE PAYMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT IT IN OF ITSELF COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE INSURANCE MARKET? IS IT PROHIBITED? IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN AFFECT THE RATE OF INSURANCE INFLATION? >>I BELIEVE THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE GROWTH AND SPENDING IN THE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE WORK IT GENERALLY IS WHAT WE WOULD BE TYING HERE. THE EXPENDITURES IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY ARE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO MATERIALLY INFLUENCE THAT BIT OF INFLATION. OF COURSE, IF OVER TIME THE CITY FINDS THAT THE INFLATION RATE IS EITHER TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW OR IS NOT MATCHING YOUR EXPECTATION FOR WHAT IT OUGHT TO BE, FOR FUTURE ADULATION, IT COULD TIE IT TO DIFFERENT RATES OF INFLATION. THIS IS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THERE HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY AND EXPECTED TO BE IN THE FUTURE INCREASES IN THE COST OF PROVIDING MEDICAL CARE. >>I GET THAT FOR INDIVIDUAL COVERAGE BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHEN A LARGE EMPLOYER IS NEGOTIATING WITH A PROVIDER TO COVER A LOT OF EMPLOYEES, THAT IT DOESN’T FOLLOW THE SAME, THERE IS A NEGOTIATION. IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON. MAYBE WE DON’T HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT NOW. BECAUSE THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL GO WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT. >>I BELIEVE THAT THE ISSUE YOU ARE DESCRIBING IS THE INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCE. THE INDIVIDUAL PLANS EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF WHO THEY HAVE IN TERMS OF COVERED LIVES. HOW DOES THAT CHANGE THE INFLATION FOR THE PLAN VERSUS HOW HAVE WE CHANGED IN TERMS OF COST FOR THE MARKET OVERALL. THE GOAL HERE IS TO LOOK AT THE MARKET COST WHICH CMS PUBLISHES ANNUALLY THAT WILL GIVE US A BASELINE PERCENTAGE FOR MEDICAL INFLATION ONLY. IT WILL THEN BE TIED TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS YOU SEE AND THEREFORE EMPLOYERS WHO DO NOT OFFER HEALTH COVERAGE OR SOME COMBINATION OF HEALTH COVERAGE. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE CMS LEVEL IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE INDUSTRY. IT HELPS US AVOID HAVING INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES OR EMPLOYER PLANNED EXPERIENCE FLUCTUATIONS. AGAIN, ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS, DOES THE CITY POTENTIALLY CONTRACT WITH KNOWN AND EXPERIENCED ACTUARIES OR CONSULTANTS THAT COULD CRUNCH THOSE NUMBERS FOR US. HAVING THE NUMBER AT THE CMS LEVEL WAS ADVISED BECAUSE IT IS A FEDERAL NUMBER THAT IS PUBLISHED ANNUALLY THE PEOPLE CAN POINT TO BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS DEFINITELY TRYING TO GET US AWAY FROM THE INDIVIDUAL PLAN EXPERIENCE AND MORE TO THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE. >>THANK YOU. >>THERE IS A DEFINITION FOR A QUALIFYING LIFE EVENT. THIS ESSENTIALLY OPENS UP WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE CHANGING AND IF IT’S PERIOD IF SOMETHING UNUSUAL HAPPENS LIKE THE BIRTH OF A CHILD. OR YOU GET MARRIED. >>IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS DECIDED THEY DON’T WANT HEALTH COVERAGE AND THEY DIDN’T SIGN THE WAIVER, IF THERE’S A CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES, IF THERE IS A LIFE-CHANGING SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE A BIRTH OF A BABY OR THE DEATH OF A SPOUSE, THE QUALIFYING EVENT ALLOWS THEM TO GET HEALTH COVERAGE. IN MANY WAYS, IT MITIGATES PEOPLE FROM BUYING HEALTHCARE NOW AND THEN THEY GET DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER. WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR THAT IN THE HEALTH INDUSTRY WORLD SO PEOPLE DON’T JUST COME WHEN THEY ARE SICK THAT WE DO NEED QUALIFYING EVENTS AND WE APPRECIATE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS LANGUAGE TO BE INCLUDED. >>IN SECTION 14 2803 IN THE BOTTOM HALF OF PAGE 5, I WOULD DESCRIBE THESE AS ESSENTIALLY TECHNICAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAINTAINED THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE. I THINK THAT IS TRUE OF THE BALANCE OF THIS SECTION. THERE ARE NO CHANGES UNTIL WE GET TO 1428 060 ON PAGE 8. THIS IS WHERE THE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE TERM I DESCRIBED MY INTRODUCTORY REMARKS WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE THE ORDER OF THE LANGUAGES. IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF CHANGES BUT I THINK I WOULD DESCRIBE MUCH OF THE CAUSE OF THE RED INK ON THE PAGE TO BE REORDERING OF THE SIMILAR LANGUAGE, AS I DESCRIBED IN MY OPENING REMARK, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF WAYS THE EMPLOYER CAN MEET THERE. THE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE. IT DESCRIBES THE WAYS THAT CAN HAPPEN. THEY ARE SUBSTANTIVELY UNCHANGED. I AM ON PAGE 9. I AM HAPPY TO GO BACK TO PAGE 6 IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. >>SO YOU WENT THROUGH 030. THERE IS NO FOR THE CHANGES UNTIL 060. >>THE WAIVER THAT IF AN EMPLOYEE RECEIVES HEALTHCARE FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE FROM A SPOUSE, THE EMPLOYEE CAN SAY THAT HE OR SHE WANTS NOT TO BE COVERED BY THE EMPLOYER? >>THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL AS INTRODUCED BILL AS WELL. SO THE SUBSTANCE OF THAT IS THE SAME IN THE SUBSTITUTE. THE WAIVER IS STILL AVAILABLE TO AN EMPLOYEE. >>YES. >>SO IT IS INTENDED BE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE THAT HELPS CREATE THE SAME INTENT IS THE ORIGINAL BILL. >>ONE GOOD EXAMPLE IS THERE IS LANGUAGE HERE ON PAGE 6 FOR EXAMPLE. WE WANTED TO KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SPOUSE WHO DOESN’T HAVE EMPLOYER HEALTH COVERAGE BUT THEY HAVE GREAT COVERAGE TO THE VA FOR EXAMPLE. IF THAT EMPLOYEE SAYS, HEY, I DON’T WANT THIS HEALTH COVERAGE TO BE SOMETHING I PAY FOR AND I DON’T NEED IT FOR MY SPOUSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE VA COVERAGE THAT WE HAVE CLARIFIED, IT DOESN’T JUST HAVE TO BE EMPLOYER SPONSORED HEALTH COVERAGE. >>1428 060 BEGINS ON PAGE 8 AND CONTINUES ON PAGE NINE. THERE IS A SIMILAR INSCRIPTION USING DIFFERENT HOPEFULLY CLARIFYING WORDS WITH THE SAME INTENT ON HOW AN EMPLOYER CAN MEETS THE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS THEY CAN DO SO. >>IF WE GO BACK TO THE LANGUAGE WE PROPOSED EARLIER, IF WE GO TO THE GOLD LEVEL PLAN, HOW DOES ALL OF THIS WORK COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE? >>I THINK IT IS A GOOD QUESTION THAT, WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE DECIDES TO DO, WHETHER YOU VOTE ON THE AMENDED LANGUAGE NOW OR TAKE IT UP ON THE FIFTH, I WILL BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >>MY INITIAL TAKE IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS SAYING THAT ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT AN EMPLOYER HAS SATISFIED THIS SECTION, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BILL IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE OFFERING CONFERENCE OF COVER COVERS TO THE EMPLOYEE OR DEPENDENTS. IT DOES GO ON TO DESCRIBE OTHER INSURANCE PROGRAMS. I THINK THE LANGUAGE YOU SEE IN THE SUBSEQUENT SECTION BE EXPLAINS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WHAT TYPE OF COVERAGE THAT CAN LOOK LIKE. >>SO SHOULD WE PUT THAT? I AM ASKING THIS QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. SHOULD WE STATE THAT UP FRONT SO IF THE EMPLOYER HAS SATISFIED THE MONTHLY AMOUNT FOR HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURES, THAT THEY OFFER A GOLD LEVEL PLAN? >>SO WE BASICALLY DO THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DESCRIBED WHAT THE AMOUNT IS. YOU HAVE SHOWN BE AS BEING THE EXCEPTION TO THAT. >>WELL I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND SOME TIME MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS CLEAR AND READABLE. BUT I THINK WE ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >>OKAY. SO ITEMS BE AND D TOGETHER. THEY PROVIDE, I WAS DESCRIBING IN MY OPENING REMARKS THAT SOME EMPLOYEES MAY CHOOSE TO OPT OUT OF HEALTHCARE COVERAGE AND RECEIVED NO FURTHER COMPENSATION. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THIS BUT THERE IS DIFFERENT LANGUAGE DESCRIBING IT. THOSE EMPLOYEES MUST HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER HEALTH COVERAGE FOR THEMSELVES THAT MEETS CERTAIN CRITERIA. NAMELY, THEY HAVE TO BE A GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT. FOR THEMSELVES OR THEIR FAMILIES. THAT IS NOT A CHANGE BUT THERE IS DIFFERENT LANGUAGE TO ADDRESS THE SAME POLICY INTENT. EMPLOYERS MAY RELY ON EMPLOYEE STATEMENTS THAT THEY ARE COVERED BY SUCH A PLAN. AND THIS IS AGAIN, DIFFERENT LANGUAGE BUT IT IS THE SAME POLICY INTENT. >>THERE IS A NEW WAITING PERIOD FOR NEW HIRES. SO EMPLOYERS CAN TAKE UP TO 60 DAYS IN WHICH TO BEGIN MAKING THE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE. THAT ALLOWS FOR BOTH THE EMPLOYEE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE AND FOR THE EMPLOYER TO MAKE A RATIONAL DECISION ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO OFFER THE EMPLOYEE. THAT IS NEW TO THIS PROVISION. >>IN ITEM C, ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 10, IT IS WHERE THE NEW DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE ESTABLISHED THAT ARE AGAIN, 20% HAIRCUT AT THE CHAIR DESCRIBED IT FROM THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE AS INTRODUCED LEGISLATION. >>JUST FOR CLARIFICATION HERE, THE CHAIR IS TRYING TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS AS WE GO. BUT DO THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS NOT APPLY IF THE EMPLOYER HAS PROVIDED A GOLD LEVEL PLAN? >>THAT IS THE INTENSE AT THE AMENDMENT THAT THE CHAIR SPEAKS TO. >>COUNCILMEMBER, I WILL JUST ANSWER IT. IF YOU SEE LINE 3 ON PAGE 10. IT REFERENCES C IN HERE. IT IS CLARIFYING EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID. C WILL NOT AFFECT THOSE EMPLOYERS WHO HAVE HAD A GOLD LEVEL PLAN. >>THEY HAVE NOT OFFERED A GOLD LEVEL PLAN THEN C WOULD KICK IN. >>I DON’T LOVE HEALTHCARE SAVINGS ACCOUNTS. AS A PERSON WHO TESTIFIED, THEY ARE EXACTLY RIGHT. THEY ARE MORE LIKE EMERGENCY HEALTH COVERAGE. I WOULDN’T EVEN CALL THEM COVERAGE. THEY ARE KIND OF A CASE OF EMERGENCY BACKSTOP. WE HAVE OFFERED IT AS AN ALTERNATIVE IF ANYBODY IS OFFERING A GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT. IF THEY ARE OFFERING SOMETHING LIKE AN HSA. IT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE CRITERIA SETS IN. IF YOU’RE NOT OFFERING THE GOLD LEVEL PLAN BUT YOUR OFFERING AN HSA, YOU STILL NEED TO MEET THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS SO WE KEEP THE WORKER WHOLE. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE HSA TYPE OF COVERAGE IS NOT HIGH- QUALITY. HIGH-VALUE. >>I APPRECIATE THAT. IF AN EMPLOYER, LET’S SAY IT IS A LARGE EMPLOYER. OR EMPLOYEES THAT CAN INVEST IN A POOL TOGETHER. IF THEY OFFER A GOLD LEVEL PLAN, IRRESPECTIVE OF HOW MUCH THEY HAVE TO PAY, HAVE THEY SATISFIED IT? >>WITH A NEW LANGUAGE, YES. >>SO I TALKED ABOUT D ALREADY. I WILL SKIP TO EAT NOW ON PAGE 12 OF THE REDLINE VERSION. THIS IS A NEW, THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT IS ADDED TO ITS WOULD ESTABLISH ESSENTIALLY THE TIMING FOR THE REQUIRED HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE AMOUNT TO BE PAID. ESPECIALLY IN PARTICULAR, WITH RESPECT TO THE EMPLOYERS WHO CHOOSE TO USE THOSE TO MEET THE EXPENDITURE AMOUNT, THIS ESTABLISHES THAT THE PAYMENT CAN’T BE SAVED UP OVER TIME AND PAID 10 YEARS FROM WHEN IT IS OWED. IT HAS TO BE PAID IN THE MONTH THAT THE EMPLOYEE IS RECEIVING THE REST OF THE COMPENSATION. ITEM F FROM THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 12 GOING ON TO PAGE 13 AGAIN OF THE REDLINE VERSION, IT DISCUSSES THE MEDICAL INFLATION RATE AND IT USES THIS NEW DEFINED TERM, MEDICAL INFLATION RATE. AND AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER, IT PROVIDES SOME SPECIFICITY ABOUT WHEN THE NEW RATE HAS TO BE PUBLISHED SO EMPLOYERS HAVE SOME HEADS UP AND ADVANCED NOTICE BEFORE IT GOES INTO EFFECT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. IN PARTICULAR, IT HAS REPOSTED COME A CALCULATED AND POSTED BEFORE THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER OF EACH YEAR. >>TO CLARIFY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR THAT THE AGENCY IS NOT DOING THE CALCULATION ITSELF. THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ASKED THAT QUESTION. IT IS POSTING AND SHARING THE INFORMATION. SO IT IS AVAILABLE FOR THE INDUSTRY. AND WORKERS SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE RATE IS. BUT IT WILL BE DONE BY CMS. >>EXACTLY. THAT IS, THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN THE BILL BUT I THINK THAT, >>>IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT PAGE 16, IT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL. SOME FOLKS HAVE SAID IT IS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. IS 70 CALLS THE OFFICE OF LABOR AND STANDARDS ARE THEY REQUIRED, ARE WE EXPECT THEM TO BE EXPERTS IN THAT? THEY CAN WORK WITH A KNOWN AND COMPETENT WORKER OR CONSULTANT TO ASK PEOPLE TO DO THAT WORK BUT IT WOULDN’T BE DONE IN- HOUSE AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE OR OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS. WE RECOGNIZE THERE ARE PROFESSIONALS WHO CURRENTLY DO THAT WORK. >>DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE? >>I CAN IF YOU LIKE. >>I WILL SKIP DOWN. >>I WILL JUST MENTION A FEW COMMENTS. THE ORIGINAL LIMITATION DATE WAS APRIL 1, 2020. THAT IS APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS OR SO FOR THE TIME OF PASSAGE. BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THIS MOMENT AND FALL AND WINTER OF 2019 WILL BE FINALIZING THE PLANS THEY WILL OFFER TO EMPLOYEES FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2020. WE DON’T EXPECT ANY EMPLOYER TO HAVE A SPECIAL ENROLLMENT PERIOD BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN THE POLICY. WE WILL BASICALLY SAY FOR THE NXT ANNUAL OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD, WE EXPECT THESE TO BE KICKED AND IF YOU DON’T HAVE AN OPEN ENROLLMENT PERIOD BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL 1. IT NEEDS TO KICK IN BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. THAT IS FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE INDUSTRY AND WE HAVE TALKED TO THE APPLICANTS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. WE PREFER IT TO BE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >>ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? >>I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER PROJECTILE. YOU HAD A AMENDMENTS FOR ADDING HIGH QUALITY AS WE TALK ABOUT HEALTHCARE AND APPRECIATE THAT. WE HAVE INCLUDED IT. I DON’T THINK THERE ARE ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BILL. BESIDES THE ONE WE WORKED UP HERE WITH YOU GUYS. AND AS IT RELATES TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE FOLKS ON THE INDUSTRY SIDE. THE REDACTED NAME SO WE DON’T NEED DIETARY DATA. BENEFITS HAVE EXAMPLES OF HOW MUCH THEY PAY FOR, HIGH QUALITY CARE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. AT THIS POINT WE HAVE THE 20% HAIRCUT INCLUDED TO REFLECT THE NUMBERS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE BROKERS WE HAVE SEEN. WE WOULD LOVE TO AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THESE SECTIONS SO PEOPLE HAVE A SENSE OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE HEARD OF THEM AND THAT WE ALL SHARE GOALS ON PAGE 10. >>DO WE HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THE PREMIUM SPLIT? >>SO WOMEN WE SAY GOLD LEVEL EQUIVALENT, THE AMOUNT SPLIT IS 80 BEING PICKED UP BY THE PLAN AND THAT IS DEFINED IN THE FEDERAL LAW. GOLD LEVEL, THE EQUIVALENT MEANS THAT IDEALLY YOU HAVE AN 8020 SPLIT. THERE IS SOME VARIATION BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE ACA SAYS YOU CAN HAVE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 76 AND 24 SPLITS OR 82 18 THE SPLIT. THAT IS DEFINED IN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. WE HAVE MIRRORED THAT LANGUAGE HERE. >>THAT IS BEEN HARKENING BACK TO MY EXCHANGE. >>AND ONE, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD? >>CAN WE GO OVER WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING? >>I AM RESISTING THE URGE . SO IT WOULD BE AFTER HEALTH BENEFIT EXCHANGE RIGHT THERE. WE WOULD KEEP THE, IN. THAT EMPLOYER HAS SATISFIED YOU CAN STRIKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH OF. WE WOULD PUT A PERIOD AFTER SEE. AFTER THAT WE WOULD WRITE IN, IF AN EMPLOYER AND THEN STRIKE AND. YET. THIS ALLOWS FOR US TO SAY THEY HAVE SATISFIED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LEGISLATION AND IT GOES ON TO ALLOW FOR THE EMPLOYER TO DO AUTO ENROLLMENT AND ALLOWS FOR THE CLEAR LANGUAGE AROUND WAIVERS FOR EMPLOYEE OR THEIR DEPENDENTS AND HOW THAT DATA IT NEEDS TO BE CALCULATED. AND COMPILED. DAN, I AM SURE THAT YOU LOVE IT WHEN THEY AMEND AT THE TABLE. BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT. >>I, MAYBE I COULD PUT A PLACEHOLDER IN THAT COUNCILMEMBER SHALL WAS ASKING ABOUT. THE IMPLICATIONS FOR OTHER SECTIONS. THERE MIGHT BE IMPLICATIONS FOR OTHER SECTIONS THAT ON-THE-FLY ARE NOT ABLE TO DISCERN, SO I WOULD LOVE TOP, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THIS WITH AN IDEA OF SMOOTHING THINGS OUT. >>ME TOO. 100%. OUR ATTORNEYS WOULD SAY THE SAME. SO THAT IS HOW IT WOULD READ AS AMENDED. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THAT? >>I APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS. I THINK THAT UNDERSCORES WHAT COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD AND COUNCILMEMBER BAGSHAW AND I HAVE BEEN SAYING. VALUE VERSUS DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT GETS TO THE HIGH QUALITY POINT THAT COUNCILMEMBER PACHECO HAS RAISED. >>I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU, I KNOW THIS IS A NUANCED SUBJECT. I JUST APPRECIATE THE WORK BY CENTRAL STAFF AND EVERYONE, THE DIFFERENT OFFICES THAT ARE SPENDING THEIR TIME TO LEGISLATE AND DRAFT THIS ORDINANCE. >>I APPRECIATE THAT. 1000%. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN BURNING THROUGH THE MIDNIGHT OIL. THANK YOU. >>I WOULD LOVE TO AMEND THIS LEGISLATION AND KEEP IT IN COMMITTEE. THAT ALLOW FOR US TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. AMEND IT TODAY AND KEEP IT IN COMMITTEE AND BRING IT BACK ON SEPTEMBER 5. HEARING FROM THE CENTRAL STAFF AND THE LEGAL TEAM. I’M SURE AT THAT POINT AS WELL, WE WILL KEEP THE BILLS IN COMMITTEE. THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GO ONTO THE NEXT PIECE, WHICH IS PRETTY MEATY AS WELL. >>COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD? >>JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCEDURE YOU ARE RECOMMENDING. WE ARE MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO REPLACE THE INTRODUCED BILL WITH THE SUBSTITUTE. >>THAT IS IT. >>THAT IS CORRECT. >>A SUBSTITUTE AS AMENDED. >>AMENDING THE SUBSTITUTE AND THEN THE SUBSTITUTE WOULD AMEND THE BASE BILL. >>WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THE BILL AFTER. >>THAT IS RIGHT. >>SEE JULIE, I DON’T THINK YOU HAVE MOVED. >>I THINK YOU CAN MOVE THIS VERSION OF D 2. I WILL CALL IT D 2 A. THAT WILL BE CLEAR WITH THE COMMITTEE IS TAKING ACTION ON. DAN HAS AMENDED VERSION D 2 TO MAKE IT D 2 A. LET’S MOVE THAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMEND AMENDING COUNCIL BILL 119 555 IN SUBSTITUTE OF 19 555 FIVE WITH AMENDED VERSION D 2 A. >>ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? >>I WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING. I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS. BUT I REALLY LIKE WHERE YOU ARE GOING HERE WITH THE EMPLOYERS BEING SATISFIED OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY BEING SATISFIED. DON’T TAKE IT AS I DON’T LIKE THE DIRECTION BUT I WANT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE IN MY READING WE ARE BEFORE A VOTE ON THIS. >>IS A MEMBER OF RYAN? >>I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS. BUT SIMILAR, I AM RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. THE ACTION TO SUBSTITUTE THIS IS JUST TO GET US ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ONCE AGAIN. WHERE WE ARE. THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE FOR SURE. >>I AGREE. >>I JUST APPRECIATE THE FORWARD MOVEMENT AND ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS FOR US NOT TO VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING BILL YET. >>I THINK THAT IS A NICE COMPROMISE BETWEEN CONTINUING TO TALK ABOUT AMENDMENTS AND NOT MOVING ON THEM. MOVING SOMETHING ELSE. THANK YOU. >>ANYTHING ELSE? >>ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDED BILL D 2 A. ANY OPPOSED? NONE. ANY ABSTENTIONS? ONE. THREE VOTES TO AMEND AND ONE TO ABSTAIN. WE WILL KEEP THIS BILL. COUNCIL BILL 119555 IN COMMITTEE. AND WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD. THAT IS COMFORTABLE 119557. AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WHO HAVE STUCK AROUND WITH US. WE HAVE ABOUT 40 MINUTES LEFT. WE ARE GETTING TO ANOTHER POINT OF LEGISLATION. IT IS RELATED TO HOTEL SAFETY. IT SHOULD TEA UP WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR ALLOWING US TO THIS AMENDED VERSION OF THE PIECE FORWARD. TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS, KARINA. >>YOU ARE WELCOME. TODAY AT THE TABLE THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION OF A SUBSTITUTE BILL FOR HOTEL SAFETY PROTECTIONS. IT IS VERSION THE 2. IT IS ONE OF THE FOUR ORDINANCES IN THE PACKAGE OF ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TO PROTECT HOTEL WORKERS. THIS VERSION HAD A NUMBER OF CHANGES FROM THE ORIGINAL VERSION D 1. IT WAS PROPOSED EARLIER. IT HAS CHANGES FROM THE VERSION SHARED LAST NIGHT WITH CERTAIN STAKEHOLDERS. I WILL DO MY BEST TO HIGHLIGHT BOTH OF THOSE TYPES OF CHANGES. AND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEFORE THEM RIGHT NOW IS A TRACK CHANGES VERSION OF THE LEGISLATION. A CLEAN VERSION OF THE LEGISLATION. ALSO A CHART IN THE KEY COMPONENTS. IN THE REVISED VERSION. SO WHAT I CAN DO IS GO THROUGH THE CHARGE. I CAN HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCES FROM THE D 1 VERSION AND THE VERSION SHARED LAST NIGHT WITH FOLKS. úSO TO BEGIN, A BROAD OVERVIEW BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE DETAILS, THIS NEW VERSION DOESN’T HAVE A REQUIREMENT OR EMPLOYER TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A REPORT OF VIOLENT OR HARASSING CONDUCT BY A GAS OR EMPLOYEE, IT DOESN’T REQUIRE AN EMPLOYER TO KEEP A LIST OF GUEST THAT HAVE BEEN ALLEGED TO ENGAGE IN THAT MISCONDUCT OR BAND SERVICES FOR 5 YEARS. NOR DOES IT REQUIRE THE EMPLOYER TO THEM IT TEST SERVICES BEYOND THE GUEST CURRENT STAY. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES FROM THE ORIGINAL VERSION. I WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL WITH THOSE LATER BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AT THE OUTSET. >>THERE IS NO BAN. AND THERE IS IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT, DO WE THINK THIS PARTICULAR VERSION DEALS WITH THE DUE PROCESS QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP? >>THAT IS THE THOUGHT BEHIND THESE CHANGES. TO CLARIFY, THERE IS A LIMITATION ON INTERIM GUEST SERVICES WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS LATER. WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AS THE BAND IN THE PAST WAS A DECLINING OF ALL SERVICES TO DEGASSED FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS. THAT IS NOT IN THIS LEGISLATION AT ALL. >>THE HOTEL OWNER RESERVES THE RIGHT TO VIOLATE ANYONE, — BAN ANYONE WHO IS TRASK TRESPASSING. >>THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TRESPASS THEIR GUESTS AT THEIR OWN DECISION-MAKING. THERE DOING THINGS THAT ARE SEPARATE THAT MIGHT PROVIDE MORE REDUCTION. DECISIONS MADE UNDER TITLE VII OR LOCAL ANTIDISCRIMINATION LAW, ETC. >>THANK YOU. >>TO BEGIN, THERE IS A PANIC BUTTON REQUIREMENT. THE CHANGE IN THIS LEGISLATION IS THAT THE PANIC BUTTON REQUIREMENT AS NOTED BY THOSE PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, IT HAS GOT A DIFFERENCE FROM THE PANIC PANIC REQUIREMENT FOR STATE LAW, THE DIFFERENCES THAT THE PANIC BUTTON IN THIS LEGISLATION REQUIRES THE EMPLOYER TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE TO WHOMEVER TRIGGERED THE PANIC BUTTON. THE STATE PANIC BUTTON SAYS THAT THE BUTTON HAS TO BE ABLE TO SUMMON ASSISTANCE. IT MAY SUMMON ASSISTANCE. THIS PANIC BUTTON MUST SUMMON ASSISTANCE. A WHISTLE IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. ú>>CAN WE KNOW ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS? WHETHER IT IS A BLUETOOTH KIND OF THING? IF YOU PUSH THE PANIC BUTTON, AS IT GO DOWN TO, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHO IS GOING TO RESPOND? I THINK YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. PARTICULARLY A BIG CONVENTION SIZED HOTEL. AS WE ALL KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN THERE. WE CAN WALK DOWN A HALL AND SEE NOBODY. SO HOW DOES THIS WORK AND WHAT DO WE THINK THE RESPONSE WILL BE BY HOME? >>I IMAGINE THESE PANIC BUTTONS CAN WORK IN A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT WAYS, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY ARE CONFIGURED. I IMAGINE THAT IF IT IS A ELECTRIC DEVICE, WITH THIS NEW DEFINITION, IT COULD GO TO THE EMPLOYERS SECURITY DEPARTMENT. IT, GO TO SOMEONE IN HR. IT COULD GO TO WHOMEVER THE EMPLOYER HAS DESIGNATED TO RECEIVE THE SIGNAL THAT SOMEONE NEEDS IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE. SOMEONE WOULD ALWAYS NEED TO BE ON CALL AND AVAILABLE TO RECEIVE THAT SIGNAL. SO IT COULDN’T BE JUST BLINKING IN A ROOM WHERE SOMEONE STEPPED UP. SOMEONE HAS ALWAYS TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT AND REACT IMMEDIATELY. >>>>JUST TO THAT POINT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT REFORM IN THIS LEGISLATION. I DON’T THINK IT IS THE WORK. OF THIS COUNSEL, TO MAKE THIS REFORM, BECAUSE OF THE PRACTICES AND EXPERIENCES THAT WE KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE HAD TRYING TO SUMMON HELP. IN THE CASE OF AN ASSAULT OF AN EMPLOYEE AT A HOTEL, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MANY HOTEL YEARS HAD COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW AND NEEDED ADDITIONAL TIME TO COME UP WITH THIS NEW LEVEL OF EXPECTATION. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER MOSQUEDA INCLUDING THIS AMENDMENT IN THE SUBSTITUTE BILL. IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS INTERESTED IN BRINGING SET THANK YOU. >>I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ WHO IS PUBLICLY WATCHING FROM COPENHAGEN. HER AND HER TEAM WORKED MY TEAM ON SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS WITH CENTRAL STUFF. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR IT THEIR WORK AS WELL FOR THESE AMENDMENTS. >>>TO BUILD ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD WAS SAYING, WHAT IS DIFFERENT IN THIS D 2 VERSION IS NOT THE DEFINITION OF PANIC BUTTON. IT REMAINS THE SAME. WHAT IS DIFFERENT IS, AS COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD NOTED, THERE WAS A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION FOR EMPLOYERS TO COMPLY WITH THIS NEW DEFINITION AS LONG AS THE EMPLOYER IS PROVIDING A PANIC BUTTON THAT MEETS STATE REQUIREMENT IN THE INTERIM. SO ON JANUARY 1, WHEN THIS LAW WENT INTO EFFECT, IF THE EMPLOYER HAS PANIC BUTTON THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH STATE REQUIREMENTS, THEY ARE FINE. AS LONG AS THEY IMPROVE IT WITH THE SEATTLE REQUIREMENTS BY THE END OF THE YEAR. JANUARY 1 OF 2021. >>THIS IS A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD. YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO. WHAT IS ALLOWABLE NOW? THE WHISTLE IS ONE THING YOU BROUGHT UP. WHAT ELSE IS, MEETS THIS CURRENT STATE REQUIREMENT? >>AGAIN, THE DIFFERENCE IS WHETHER OR NOT THAT DEVICE RESULT IN A RESPONSE. KARINA, MAYBE YOU COULD SPEAK MORE TO THAT? >>THE STATE REQUIREMENT MIRRORS THE SAME LANGUAGE AS INITIATIVE 124. WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL HOTEL PROTECTIONS LEGISLATION. SO WITH THIS NEW BILL FROM THE BEGINNING, THERE WAS A DECISION TO MAKE THE PANIC BUTTON STRONGER THAN IT WAS AND STRONGER THAN IT IS NOW UNDER STATE LAW. >>IT DOESN’T REALLY SAY MUCH. ONE SAYS THAT THE EMPLOYER WOULD PROVIDE A PANIC NUMBER TO EACH EMPLOYEE. IT DOESN’T DESCRIBE WHAT IT DOES. DOES IT EMIT A HORRIBLE SOUND? WHAT IS ALLOWABLE BY STATE LAW AS FAR AS WHAT IS ORIGINALLY PASSED? >>MY UNDERSTANDING WITHOUT HAVING INITIATIVE 124 IN FRONT OF ME DIRECTLY, THERE WAS A DEFINITION OF PANIC BUTTON. >>WE HAVE THIS DEFINITION IN OUR OWN LEGISLATION. >>THE DEFINITION OF PANIC BUTTON IS THE SAME AS THE PROPOSED DEFINITION EXCEPT FOR ONE VERY IMPORTANT WORD. THE I-24 AND STATE DEFINITION SAYS THE PANIC BUTTON MAY SUMMON IMMEDIATE ON SCENE ASSISTANCE. >>IT SAYS THEY MUST SUMMON. IT CHANGES HOW THE PANIC BUTTON IS GOING TO OPERATE. >>>KARINA MENTIONED A WHISTLE WOULD SUFFICE AS A PANIC BUTTON. I DON’T KNOW OF ANY HOTELS THAT ARE USING A WHISTLE BUT WE HAVE HEARD OF HOTELS THAT ARE USING A PANIC BUTTON THAT ADMITS A NOISE THAT IS A LOCALIZED ALARM FROM THE PANIC BUTTON DEVICE ITSELF. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE HEARD OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE HEARD BY SOMEONE FROM THE HOTEL, AN EMPLOYEE COMES AND ASSISTS. IT MAY DO THAT BUT IT MAY NOT DO THAT. THE CHANGE OF THE WORD MUST, THE DEVICE MUST NOW COMMUNICATE AFFIRMATIVELY WITH A DESIGNATED PERSON IN THE HOTEL WHO WORKS FOR THE HOTEL WHOSE JOB IT IS TO SEND HELP. >>WE HAVE SECURITY. WE WILL HAVE SECURITY. >>IS LIKE IF WE WERE TO PUSH THE PANIC BUTTONS HERE. SECURITY KNOWS ABOUT IT. >>CORRECT. >>OKAY, WE HAVE ABOUT HALF AN HOUR. I THINK WE ARE ON BOX 1. >>WE HAVE DONE BOX ONE. WE HAVE DONE BUCKS TO. WE ARE BOTH ON BOX 3 FOR POLICY. THIS PROVISION ACTUALLY HAS NOT CHANGED FROM THE D1 VERSION. BUT I HELP, I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT EMPLOYERS MUST DEVELOP A WRITTEN POLICY AGAINST VIOLENT, HARASSING CONDUCT. PROVIDE GUEST WITH THE COPY OF THE POLICY. HE PROVIDED TO THE EMPLOYEE AT HIGHER AND ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. BUT HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY IS THE NEXT ROW. EMPLOYER REQUIREMENTS FOR SITUATIONS WHEN THERE HAS BEEN A REPORT OF VIOLENT HARASSING CONDUCT BY DEATH TOWARDS AN EMPLOYEE. SO YOU WILL SEE NOW THAT THIS REQUIREMENT IS MUCH SHORTER THAN THEY WERE UNDER THE D1 VERSION. THE EMPLOYER MUST FIRST PROVIDE THE GUEST WITH A WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE DISCONTINUATION OF SERVICES REQUIRED BY THIS LAW. THIS NOTICE DOES NOT CONTAIN FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS THAT IS A VERY BARE-BONES MINIMAL AMOUNT OF INFORMATION. THERE IS A DISCONTINUATION OF YOUR SERVICES AS IS REQUIRED BY 14.26. THE EMPLOYER ALSO MUST IMMEDIATELY TAKE PREVENTATIVE ACTION TO SAFEGUARD ALL EMPLOYEES FROM ANY FUTURE POTENTIALLY VIOLENCE OR HARASSING CONDUCT BY A GAS. AT A MINIMUM, WHAT THIS PREVENTATIVE ACTION MUST INCLUDE IS DISCONTINUING THE AND ROOM GUEST SERVICES FOR THAT GAS FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR STAY UNLESS AN INVESTIGATION DETERMINES THE ALLEGED CONDUCT DID NOT OCCUR. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THIS THIS SITUATION IS AN INVESTIGATION DETERMINING THAT A CONDUCT IS NOT OCCUR. THAT IS IF THE EMPLOYER DECIDES AT THEIR OWN DISCRETION TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION. OR IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION. THIS ORDINANCE UNDER NO úCIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRES AN INVESTIGATION. IT IS RECOGNIZING THAT IF ONE HAPPENS, CERTAIN THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND CAN FLOW FROM IT. DEPENDING ON THE DETERMINATION. >>I KNOW THIS IS AN AREA WE HAVE BEEN WRESTLING WITH. TWO THINGS, LET’S JUST ASSUME FOR A SECOND’S THAT THE HARASSING CONDUCT HAPPENED AT TWO IN THE MORNING. AND THE GUEST CHECKS OUT THE NEXT MORNING. DOES THE HOTEL HAVE TO SEND A LETTER TO OMAHA CHASING THE INDIVIDUAL DOWN AND SAYING THERE HAS BEEN A COMPLAINT? IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? THE SECOND REQUIREMENT AND I REALLY WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION BUSINESS. THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY’S OFFICE AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE ALERTED US THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL AROUND THESE INVESTIGATIONS, NO TO TAINT ANY EVIDENCE, NOT TO COMPROMISE A FUTURE INVESTIGATION. I’M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS VIOLENT AND OBVIOUS. NOT THE SETTLE ONCE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. I JUST WANT US TO BE PAYING ATTENTION HERE. WHATEVER LANGUAGE WE COME UP WITH PASSES NOT JUST THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS AND THE INVESTIGATING POLICE DEPARTMENTS. >>THE INVESTIGATION IS NOT REQUIRED THOUGH? CORRECT? >>THIS IS ONLY IF THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION. >>THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM. IS 70 TAKES ON AN INVESTIGATION UNDER THEIR OWN VOLITION BUT IT TURNS OUT TO BE A CRIMINAL MATTER LATER ON, WHAT I AM HEARING FROM THE POLICE AND PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS IS THAT WE CAN REALLY COMPROMISE A FUTURE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. >>THIS WOULD BE HOTEL SECURITY OR SOMETHING. WE CANNOT. >>THAT IS THE PROBLEM. SO THE IDEA IS THAT THERE ARE PRACTICES NOW THAT MIGHT INVOLVE INVESTIGATORY PRACTICES. WE DON’T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT BUT WE KNOW THAT IF THOSE PRACTICES OCCUR, THAT THE EMPLOYEE NEEDS TO BE ASSIGNED. >>WE ARE NOT MANDATING THIS. >>I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT OF BEEN RAISED. I DON’T, I’M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE MEDS OR ARE YET ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT I AM HEARING FROM THOSE PROFESSIONALS TO DO THIS KIND OF INVESTIGATION. >>COULD YOU COMMENT ON THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS THAT EMPLOYERS HAVE WHEN AN EMPLOYEE FLAGS AN ISSUE OF HARASSMENT OR ASSAULT? IN THE WORKPLACE? NOT OUT OF ANY DIRECTION FROM CITY GOVERNMENT BUT WHAT OTHER CURRENT REQUIREMENTS ARE THERE FROM AN EMPLOYER? >>IT WAS NOT UNDER THIS LAW. IT WOULD BE UNDER THE ANTIDISCRIMINATION LAW. THAT IS 14 POINT 04. THAT IS A STATE COROLLARY. THE WASHINGTON STATE LAW AGAINST DISCRIMINATION. THERE IS THE FEDERAL COROLLARY úWHICH IS TITLE VII. THAT LAW REQUIRES EMPLOYERS TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION TO CORRECT SITUATIONS WHEN THEY RECEIVE INFORMATION THAT AN EMPLOYEE HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO HARASSMENT THAT IS SEVERE OR PERVASIVE. AND THAT EXISTS REGARDLESS OF THIS ORDINANCE. EMPLOYERS DESCRIBE WHAT THEY DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEE IS REMOVED FROM THAT SITUATION AND THAT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN ANYMORE. SO EMPLOYERS TAKE A VARIETY OF ACTIONS TO CORRECT THAT. THE HARASSER IS AN EMPLOYEE THEY MIGHT PUT THEM ON PAID LEAVE. IF IT IS A GUESS, MAYBE THEY WILL DECIDE ON THEIR OWN TO IMMEDIATELY TRESPASS THEM. HE MIGHT CHOOSE TO INVESTIGATE IT BUT THEY MIGHT NOT. HE MIGHT JUST GET RID OF THE SITUATION. >>SO ALL OF THOSE PROVISIONS MAY REMAIN IN PLACE. AND I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS THAT IF THE EMPLOYER DECIDES TO CALL THE POLICE TO HELP THEM WITH THAT RESPONSIBILITY, IF THEY ALREADY HAVE IT, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE EITHER MANDATING OR MESSING WITH. THE LAW IS MANDATING THAT THE GUESTS BE GIVEN A WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE DISCONTINUATION OF SERVICES. THERE WAS VERY CAREFUL THOUGHT INTO WHAT WOULD GO INTO THE NOTICE AND HOW IT WOULD BE WORDED IN THE LEGISLATION. IT WAS INTENTIONAL THAT THE NOTICE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE REQUIREMNT TO HAVE ACTUAL ALLEGATIONS. IT IS SIMPLY A DISCONTINUATION OF SERVICES. I IMAGINE THAT IT COULD PROVIDE A TEMPLATE AS SOMETHING TO PROVIDE TO EMPLOYERS TO HAVE A MINIMALLY WORDED PLAIN LANGUAGE NOTICE FORECAST. >>SO AS WE MOVE AWAY FROM ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, WHICH I THINK RAISES CONCERNS FROM SOME OF OUR FRIENDS ABOUT LISTS. BUT WE DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE HAS TO BE PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE WORKERS. EVEN A WORKER WHOSE CLAIM MIGHT NOT BE SUBSTANTIATED. WE DON’T WANT TO PUT THAT WORKER BACK AND THAT SAME SITUATION. WE DON’T WANT ANYBODY TO BE IN A HARMFUL SITUATION THAT THE EMPLOYER IS DOING ON THEIR OWN. HAVING THE ROOM NOT CLEAN FOR THAT DURATION SEEMS LIKE A GOOD APPROACH TO MAKING SURE PEOPLE WERE SAFE. AND MAKING SURE THAT WE RESPECT THAT EMPLOYERS MIGHT BE DOING THEIR OWN INVESTIGATORS. ARE CONTACTING THE POLICE AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ALREADY THE EXISTING RIGHT TO DO. >>ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD? >>JUST A QUESTION. I KNOW THAT ALEX IN MY OFFICE HAD WORKED WITH YOU, KARINA ON AN AMENDMENT AS IT RELATES TO CONFIDENTIALITY FOR REPORTING EMPLOYEES. IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE SUBSTITUTE. >>IS IN THE NEXT SECTION I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT. IT HAS ITS OWN LETTER. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BACK SAWS QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. I WANT TO POINT OUT WHAT IT MEANS TO DISCONTINUE GUEST SERVICE. WHAT THAT MEANS IS EMPLOYERS ARE NO LONGER ASSIGNED TO WORK IN THE ROOM. TO MAKE DELIVERIES TO THE ROOM. HOWEVER, THE GUEST CAN ALWAYS GO DOWN TO THE FRONT DESK TO GET TOWELS AND THE GUESTS COULD DOWN TO GET THEIR FOOD. >>DO WE HAVE LEGAL CONCERNS ABOUT INTERFERING WITH A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE HOTEL AND THE GUEST AND AGAIN I AM TALKING ABOUT AN UNSUBSTANTIATED, IT IS TO IN THE MORNING, NOBODY ELSE HAS SEEN IT. WHERE ARE WE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IF WE SAY WE HAVE DECIDED THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE YOU SERVICES TOMORROW MORNING? >>THE SOME TOTAL OF THIS LEGISLATION VASTLY REDUCE CONCERNS WE HEARD ABOUT FROM ACLU AND FROM THE KING COUNTY SEXUAL ASSAULT NETWORK AND OTHER LEGAL CONCERNS. WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLORE MORE OF WHAT YOU ASKED ABOUT. >>I DO WANT TO KNOW, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME COMMUNICATION FROM OUR FRIENDS AT ACLU HAVE SAID THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP. THEY APPRECIATE THE MANY OF CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED. REGARDING THIS SECTION, THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT. SO WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM BEFORE IT MOVES OUT OF COMMITTEE BUT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD INDICATION THAT THE TWO ITEMS WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON OUR FURTHER MORE, REFINING VIOLENT AND HARASSING, WHICH THEY GAVE HER CW’S TO CROSS-REFERENCE. WILL ALSO BE WORKING WITH THEM ON ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOOD INDICATION THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH. >>>>THE NEXT SET OF EMPLOYER REQUIREMENTS ADDRESS OF THE EMPLOYER NEEDS TO DO FOR AN EMPLOYEE WHO WAS ALLEGED VICTIM OF VIOLENT INTERESTING CONDUCT. THAT ADDRESSES THE EMPLOYEES TO MAKE IT REPORT THEMSELVES. MAYBE IT WAS MADE BY A THIRD PARTY THAT ADDRESSES CONDUCT THAT WAS MADE TOWARDS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE. SO THE EMPLOYER MUST REASSIGN THE EMPLOYEE TO A DIFFERENT WORK AREA. THIS IS REGARDLESS OF, IT DOESN’T INCLUDE STEP ONE OF THE OFFERING OF THE EMPLOYEE REASSIGNMENT. IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. IT IS THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE D1 VERSION ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. THE EMPLOYER IMMEDIATELY REASSIGNS THE EMPLOYEE AND WILL MAINTAIN THAT REASSIGNMENT EVEN IF THERE IS A VACANT, INVESTIGATION THAT DETERMINES THAT THE ALLEGED CONDUCT DID NOT OCCUR. THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE ACTUAL LAW THAT IS NOT IN THE SUMMARY THAT SAYS THAT IT THE EMPLOYER DOES INDEED TO MAINTAIN THE ASSIGNMENT IF WERE TO CONFLICT WITH OBLIGATIONS UNDER A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. BUT THE GIST OF IT IS THAT THE EMPLOYER REPORTED EGREGIOUS CONDUCT BY GUESTS. DO NOT PUT THEM IN A SITUATION EVER AGAIN WITH THAT GAS FOR THE REST OF THEIR STAY. >>I WANT TO BRING UP ONE MORE THING THAT WE HEARD FROM ACLU. THAT IS IF WE ARE AUTOMATICALLY REASSIGNS TO ANOTHER FOR, THE CONCERNED THAT WAS RAISED WITH POSSIBLY PUTTING THAT EMPLOYEE AT A DISADVANTAGE OR A POSITION TO BE RETALIATED AGAINST. AND EXAMPLE BROUGHT UP WAS THAT THE EMPLOYER WAS WORKING ON IT. WE HAVE A MUCH BUSIER FLOOR. >>A MUCH MORE ACTION THAT IT PUTS THEM IN A WORSE POSITION SO THEY ARE JUST RAISING THE ISSUE AND ALSO, WHETHER OR NOT TAKING NECESSARY STEPS IS TOO VAGUE. SO RAISING THAT FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION. >>SO I THINK IT WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE EXISTING RETALIATION PROVISIONS AND PROTECTIONS. PERHAPS WE COULD BE CONSIDERED WHETHER OR NOT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, TO REASSIGN AN EMPLOYEE TO EQUAL AND EQUIVALENT WORK ASSIGNMENTS. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. >>IT COULD BE HANDLED IN THE RULES. >>I JUST WANT TO RAISE THIS. I DON’T HAVE THE SOLUTION FOR IT. JUST AS WE ARE CONVERSING TODAY WITH ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS. >>THANK YOU. >>THE EMPLOYER MUST PROVIDE THE EMPLOYEE WITH A COPY OF I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I THINK YOU’RE RIGHT. IT IS MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY A LEGAL CONCERN. AS YOU WERE TALKING, IT DOES MAYBE SEEM LIKE IF THIS WERE TO BE MAINTAINED, WE SHOULD ASK FOR CLARIFICATION AND RULES FROM THE AGENCY BROW TO MAKE SURE THAT DISPARITY DOESN’T EXIST. BUT I DO WANT TO KNOWLEDGE I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. >>ABSOLUTELY. >>SO THE EMPLOYEES RECEIVING A COPY OF THE SAME NOTICE, A DISCONTINUATION OF SERVICES THAT THE GUEST TO PERCEIVE, JUST TO LET THEM KNOW, THIS HAPPENED. YOU ARE PROTECTED. WE CARE. WE ARE DOING WITH THE LAW REQUIRES. NEXT, THIS WAS A QUICK ONE. >>THESE ALL SEEM SO IMPORTANT. SO THE GUEST HAS CHECKED OUT. IT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT AT TWO IN THE MORNING. THE GUEST CHECKS OUT AT 7:30 PM. WHAT IS THE HOTEL REQUIRED TO DO? >>THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US BACK TO THAT. IT IS IN A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION. IT IS HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED BY AGENCIES, WHAT IT MEANS TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO A GUEST. IF IT IS REPORTED AT UAM AND THE GUEST IS ASKED TO LEAVE AT 9:30 AM, THE HOTEL COULD SLIDE IT UNDER THE DOOR IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. OR MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS WAITING BY THE GUEST DOOR WHEN THEY GET UP. IF THEY HAVE ALREADY LEFT, IT COULD BE MAILED TO THEM. I IMAGINE IN THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS, THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT WAYS TO ACHIEVE THE NOTICE. RULES WOULD BE HELPFUL TO CLARIFY. >>I THINK I AM UNDERSTANDING RIGHT THAT THAT RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THE HOTEL OFFERS THE GUEST IS ONLY FOR THE GUEST CURRENT STATE. IS THAT CORRECT? IF THE GUEST HAS ALREADY LEFT BY THE TIME THE HOTEL GETS TOGETHER THE NOTICE, THEN EFFECTIVELY, THERE IS NO LONGER ANY PURPOSE IN GIVING THE NOTICE. >>I THINK IT COULD SERVE A PURPOSE. LETTING THE GUESTS KNOW. >>I THINK THAT IT COULD SERVE A PURPOSE OF LETTING THE GUEST KNOW THAT THE BEHAVIOR, THERE WAS A REPORT OF THE BEHAVIOR. THAT IS WHAT THE NOTICE WOULD SERVE TO DO. OTHERWISE, THE GUEST WOULD HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE THAT THE HOTEL WAS ON NOTICE. THAT THERE HAD BEEN A REPORT ABOUT THAT SITUATION. >>GO ON. >>OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT, THEY ARE IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE ORDINANCE. NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS TO DEVELOP SOME NEW DOCUMENTS THAT CAN BE HANDED TO THE EMPLOYER. THAT THE EMPLOYER CAN HAND TO THE EMPLOYEE IN THESE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A REPORT OF GUEST MISCONDUCT. SO ONE IS THAT THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS CREATE A POSTER THAT INCLUDES THE NOTICE OF ALL THE RIGHTS THAT FLOW FROM THIS REVISED VERSION. THE NEXT DOCUMENT IS THAT THEY WOULD CREATE A SUMMARY WITH NOTICE OF RIGHTS TO SUPPORT ADVOCATES, WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT. THAT THEY WOULD FACILITATE WHAT IS HAPPENING. IN NOTICE OF OTHER RIGHTS OF CRIME VICTIMS AND OTHER SURVIVORS AND WITNESSES FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT EXIST UNDER STATE LAW. AND THEN, THIRD, CREATE A NOTICE OF PROHIBITIONS AGAINST RETALIATION THAT HAPPENED REGARDLESS OF AN EMPLOYEE’S CITIZENSHIP. OR IMMIGRATION STATUS. SO OVER THE THE LAST, THEY ARE TASKED WITH CREATING THE DOCUMENTS AND THIS LEGISLATION AND TRANSLATING THEM. THE EMPLOYER IS TASKED WITH PROVIDING THEM TO AN EMPLOYEE IN THE SITUATION. IN ENGLISH AND IN PRIMARY LANGUAGE. >>OKAY. EXCELLENT. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL TO SOME OF THE KING COUNTY CRIME VICTIMS ADVOCATES GROUPS WHO HAVE OFFERED US INITIAL SUGGESTED LANGUAGE. WE WILL KEEP WORKING WITH THEM AS WE WORK ON THIS LANGUAGE BUT I THINK HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS THOSE COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND EXPERTS IS A REALLY GREAT ASSET IN THE LEGISLATION AND WE WILL KEEP WORKING WITH THEM ON FINDING THE LOW LANGUAGE. >>NEXT, THE EMPLOYER MUST PERMIT THE EMPLOYEE TO USE UP TO 16 HOURS OF PAID TIME TO CONSULT WITH A COUNSELOR ADVISOR ADVOCATE THAT COULD BE THIS NEWLY DEVELOPED ADVOCATE. A PERSON, A SUPPORT PERSON OF THEIR OWN CHOOSING. THOSE 16 HOURS NEED TO BE USED WITHIN A WEEK OF THE REPORT THAT THIS MISCONDUCT HAPPENED. THE 16 HOUR IS AN INCREASE FROM WHAT WAS IN THE D1 VERSION. THERE WERE EIGHT HOURS IN THAT VERSION AND NOW THERE ARE 16. THEY CAN CONSULT WITH THE SUPPORT ADVOCATE AND DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF SEVERITY OF THE INCIDENT, THE EMPLOYEE MIGHT NEED MORE TIME. >>YOU MEAN IN THE FIRST EIGHT HOURS OF THE FIRST DAY? MAKE CALLS AROUND IN THE SECOND, MAKE UP, HAVE THOSE OPPONENTS SET UP? THE TODAY CONCEPT IS WHAT WE ARE ARE LOOKING FOR. >>HOW DID WE LAND ON THAT NUMBER? I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ONE INCIDENT MAY TAKE AN HOUR OR 2 TO RESOLVE. ANOTHER INCIDENT MIGHT TAKE LONGER. HOW DID WE JUST ARRIVE AT 16? IS IT AN ARBITRARY GAS? >>>>THERE IS NO INDUSTRY STANDARD. IT WAS WHAT WAS PERCEIVED TO BE REASONABLE IN THESE SITUATIONS. KNOWING AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME WOULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM SOME GUARDRAILS IF THERE WAS AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME THERE MIGHT BE A REASONABLE NEED TO PROVIDE VERIFICATION. WE DIDN’T WANT TO IMPOSE VERIFICATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PAID TIME. SOME ARE MORE THAN EIGHT HOURS. THEY DECIDED TO GO FOR 16. >>HAVE WE TALKED WITH EMPLOYEE ADVOCATES AND EMPLOYER ADVOCATES TO SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT NUMBER. >>AT THIS POINT WE DON’T HAVE RESPONSES TO 16 HOURS VERSUS EIGHT. >>I WOULD LOVE TO GET FEEDBACK ON BOTH SIDES. >>WE HAVE HEARD SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE INDUSTRY ON THE EXPANSION OF IT. THE WORKER ADVOCATE SIDE AND THE SURVIVOR SIDE, THE RECOGNITION THAT EIGHT HOURS IS PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH. WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT FEEDBACK AS WELL BUT I THINK 16 HOURS RIGHT NOW RECOGNIZES YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET A SAME- DAY APPOINTMENT. >>NEXT, THE EMPLOYERS ARE REQUIRED TO COOPERATE WITH ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION. COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, THE EMPLOYER IS REQUIRED TO TAKE REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT THE IDENTITY OF EMPLOYEES WHO REPORT THE MISCONDUCT. AND EMPLOYEES WHO ARE THE ALLEGED VICTIMS OF THE MISCONDUCT. AND WITNESSES. IT IS NOT VERY DESCRIPTIVE BUT IT IS STATING THE REQUIREMENT TO TAKE WHAT IS A REASONABLE REQUIREMENT. >>COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD? >>IN DEVELOPING THIS, WE HAD ANOTHER VERSION THAT WAS MORE PRESCRIPTIVE. BUT I THINK I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT. I AM FINE WITH THE LANGUAGE. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE GETTING MORE DETAILED BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT PUBLICLY WHAT THE TYPES OF THINGS WE WILL BE LOOKING TO OLS TO REFINE IN RULEMAKING. SO FOR INSTANCE, WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE AROUND DISCLOSURE OF THE IDENTITY OF THE EMPLOYEE. AND WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE ABOUT ACCESS TO RECORDS. THOSE ARE AT LEAST TWO OF THE THINGS THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT WE WOULD WANT MORE DEFINITION AROUND WHILE TRYING TO PROTECT THE CONFIDENTIALITY. >>INC. YOU. I THINK THIS IS A TOPIC THAT IS WELL SUITED TO CLARIFICATION AND RULES. ONE OF THE THOUGHTS ABOUT BEING TOO PRESCRIPTIVE AND SHARING THE INFORMATION IS THAT WE DON’T WANT EMPLOYEES TO FEEL LIKE THEY THEMSELVES AREN’T ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THE SITUATIONS WITH THEIR COLLEAGUES. WE DON’T WANT TO LIMIT THAT. >>THE NEXT IS A NEW ADDITION. IT IS ON THE NEXT PAGE. PAGE 2. A SUPPORT ADVOCATES. THIS IS A NEWLY DESCRIBED SERVICE. A NEWLY INVENTED SERVICE. FOR WORKERS AND IT RECOGNIZES THE FACT THAT FOLKS RIGHT NOW UNDER STATE LAW HAVE ACCESS TO A CRIME VICTIM ADVOCATE WHICH IS PROVIDING A RANGE OF SUPPORT SERVICES WITH THERE HAS BEEN ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. THOSE SUPPORT SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIONS AND PROSECUTION AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS THAT HAPPENED. IN SOME INSTANCES, IT IS ALLEGED TO HAVE HAPPENED WITH A GUESS WON’T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A CRIME. THEN EMPLOYEES DON’T HAVE NECESSARILY RIGHTS TO THESE CRIME VICTIM ADVOCATES UNDER STATE LAW. THE SUPPORT ADVOCATE IS FILLING IN THE GAP. IT CAN ACTUALLY PERHAPS TREAD IN BOTH WORLDS. THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED BY RULES BUT THE SUPPORT ADVOCATE IS DESIGNED TO HELP EMPLOYEES KNOW WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE UNDER THIS LAW. AND TO HELP THEM NOTE THEIR CHOICES ABOUT REPORTING THE CONDUCT MANAGEMENT AND ABOUT WHAT MANAGEMENT NEEDS TO DO, PERHAPS STEPPING IN TO MAKE SURE THAT MANAGEMENT IS AWARE OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND TO FACILITATE MAKING THAT HAPPEN IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE AN OLS INVESTIGATION OR OTHER COURT SEEDINGS. THEY CAN STEP IN THERE AND IN SITUATIONS, CERTAINLY WITHIN THE 16 HOURS, THEY CAN FOLLOW THE REPORT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ENVISIONED WITH OLS MAKING HAPPEN. WHETHER THAT BE CONTRACTING WITH THE QUALIFIED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS OR CONTRACTING WITH ANOTHER ENTITY IN WHAT EVER WAY. OSS TASKED WITH PROVIDING ACCESS TO THESE SUPPORT ADVOCATES. >>I SHOULD SAY IS UP TO 16 HOURS. IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE THE FULL 16. THIS IS ALSO LANGUAGE WE HAVE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM THE CRIME VICTIMS OR A SURVIVOR ADVOCATE WHO HAVE SAID THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE TRIED TO DO AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WELL IN TERMS OF MAKING THERE SUPPORTIVE ENTITY, A SUPPORT ADVOCATES OF PEOPLE CAN HELP NAVIGATE THE SYSTEMS. >>SO ARE WE ANTICIPATING THIS BEING AVAILABLE 24 SEVEN? OR WHAT ARE WE THINKING ABOUT? DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATE ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES PER WEEK THIS ADVOCATE WOULD BE CONTACTED BASED UPON WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCES ARE? WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM STEPHAN AND OTHERS? HOW MANY TIMES, THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND, WE DON’T HAVE ALL THE DATA YET. BUT WHAT IS THE BEST ESTIMATE? >>SO AS FAR AS THE AVAILABILITY OF THE SUPPORT ADVOCATE, THAT IS ANOTHER EXCELLENT ISSUE. FOR DEVELOPMENT. BY OLS. I IMAGINE THAT OLS AND STAKEHOLDERS COULD LOOK AT WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE CRIME VICTIM ADVOCATE AND SEE IF IT IS SUFFICIENT OR NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED. OR MODIFIED, AS FAR AS THE AVAILABILITY, OR THE CALL FOR THESE SUPPORT ADVOCATE SERVICES, I DON’T KNOW IF THAT IS KNOWN. I BELIEVE THAT WHAT THIS LEGISLATION IS TRYING TO DO IS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF REPORTS TO MANAGEMENT OF THESE SITUATIONS WHEN THEY HAPPEN. SO IT, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM HOTEL WORKERS IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME RETICENCE TO SUPPORT SITUATIONS OF GUEST MISCONDUCT. THE GOAL OF THIS LEGISLATION IS TO ENCOURAGE THOSE REPORTS TO ACTUALLY BE ELEVATED TO MANAGEMENT. SO I THINK IT’S HARD TO KNOW EXACTLY THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW. BUT IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD CHECK IN WITH. >>I APPRECIATE IT. PART OF THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO IDENTIFY AND STOP THIS WORRISOME AND HARASSING BEHAVIOR THAT MANY OF THE EMPLOYEES HAVE SPOKEN TO. SO MAY, I SEE THIS AS TO WAYS. MAYBE THINGS WILL IMPROVE. >>ABSOLUTELY. >>IT COULD BE IN URGING FOLKS TO IMPROVE THESE. AND SOME GUESTS ARE ON NOTICE TO NOT DO THIS. >>COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD? I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE BUDGET IMPACT OF THIS ADVOCATE POSITION. >>SO IF OLS DETERMINES THAT THESE ADDITIONAL TASKS WILL INCUR A COST, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS OPPOSED IN THE MAYOR’S BUDGET OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COUNSELORS CONSIDER DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. >>THAT WE DON’T HAVE AN ESTIMATE? >>I THINK THAT IT IS SOMETHING TO BE EXPLORED. IT COULD BE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT HAS A NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT COULD FULFILL THIS FUNCTION. THEY COULD BE CONTRACTED TO ADD THIS TO THE RESPONSIBILITIES. IT MIGHT BE ONE PERSON BUT IT IS ALWAYS FIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICES WHO COULD NOW EXPAND TO ENCOMPASS THE LEGISLATION. >>I WANT TO BE CLEAR. THE WAY I READ THIS AND THE INTENT THAT WAS EMBEDDED IN MY HEAD, THIS WOULD BE POTENTIAL REFERRAL OUT TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY EXPERTS. >>CRISIS CONNECTIONS. THE SUPPORT ADVOCATE COULD BE SOMEONE WHO WORKS WITHIN THE KING COUNTY COALITION FOR CASEY R. >>SO I THINK THAT ENTITIES THAT WE LOOK AT, IT DOESN’T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE IN HOUSE. NOR WOULD SOMEONE HAVE TO BE TRAINED UP ON THE SKILLS. >>I APPRECIATE THAT. WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF BUDGET NEEDS AND I CHAIR A DEPARTMENT THAT IS VERY UNDERSTAFFED FOR THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE PASSED. SO IF WE ARE IN THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A NEW POSITION FOR OLS, I WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WAITING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. IF WHAT YOU’RE SAYING THAT THAT IS NOT THE INTENT? >>IT IS NOT THE INTENT. WE SHOULD CLARIFY. I AM HAPPY TO DO SO. THAT IS THE WAY I READ IT. I DIDN’T THINK ABOUT IT BEING INTERNAL. THANK YOU BOTH FOR FLAGGING THAT. TO BE EXPLICIT, THIS WOULD BE A CONTRACT WITH A SUPPORT ADVOCATE. >>WE INITIALLY HAD A LANGUAGE SAYING THAT OLS WOULD CONTRACT WITH THE QUALIFIED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS OR OTHER ENTITIES. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON FOLKS READING THAT. THINKING THAT IT WAS SUDDENLY REQUIRING AN EMPLOYER TO CONTRACT. SO WE CHOSE VERY BROAD LANGUAGE. CELL PROVIDED ACCESS THAT ON THE BACKS US, BACK ACCESS, OLS WOULD CONTRACT OR EVEN FIGURE OUT OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE BUT NOT NECESSARILY, NOT INTENDED FOR OLS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSONS FOR THIS. >>IT IS BEEN ALREADY A LONG MORNING BUT IF YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES, MAYBE WE COULD KEEP WALKING THROUGH THE CHART? >>THERE ARE TWO MAIN SECTIONS LEFT. RECORD-KEEPING AND ENFORCEMENT. RECORD-KEEPING, THERE WAS LANGUAGE ADDED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT NOTHING REQUIRES AN EMPLOYER TO RETAIN RECORDS WITH IDENTIFYING INFORMATION OF THE GUEST ALLEGED TO HAVE ENGAGED IN MISCONDUCT. ALSO, WITH ALL LABOR STANDARDS, THERE IS A REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION THAT THE EMPLOYER VIOLATED THE LAW. IF THEY FAILED TO MAINTAIN RECORDS. THAT EXISTS IN THIS LEGISLATION AS WELL. WITH ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT PRESUMPTION THAT IT ONLY APPLIES TO ESTABLISHED OBLIGATIONS AND INCIDENTS OF GUEST MISCONDUCT. IF THIS ADDRESSES THE SITUATION, WHERE THE EMPLOYER SAYS WE DON’T HAVE RECORD OF THIS SITUATION BECAUSE NOBODY EVER COMPLAINED. SO I THINK THIS AGAIN, WHILE SUITED FOR RULES TO DESCRIBE WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE AN ESTABLISHED ALLEGATION, DOES THAT MEAN OLS IS FOUND BY THE PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE THAT THE SITUATION HAPPENED? OR SOMETHING ELSE? >>I REALLY WANT TO KNOWLEDGE THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE RECEIVED NOT JUST FROM ACLU BUT OTHERS AND FOLKS ON THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN’T UNDULY KEEPING AN ONGOING LIST FOR 5 YEARS. AS YOU SEE IN THE AMENDED WAS, KARINA JUST WALKED US THROUGH THIS. WE WANTED TO BE EXPLICIT THAT NOTHING REQUIRES THE EMPLOYER TO RETAIN RECORDS OF IDENTIFYING INFORMATION. WE OBVIOUS A WANT THERE TO BE IN THE MOMENT. ESPECIALLY FOR THE STATE. SO NO WORKER IS PUT IN HARMS WAY. NOBODY IS ASKED TO GO BACK TO THE ROOM WHERE THEY EXPERIENCED THE ALLEGED HARASSMENT OR INTIMIDATION OR VIOLENCE. BUT THIS IS REALLY CRITICAL SO WE HAVE CLARIFIED. >>EXACTLY. >>THE LAST, THE ENFORCEMENT SECTION. FIRST, ALL OF THE PENALTIES AND FINES AND THE ENFORCEMENT SECTION HAVE BEEN DOUBLED FROM THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE REGULARLY IN A LABOR STANDARDS ORDINANCES FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE IS TO FURTHER INCENTIVIZE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE. AND NEXT IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS VERY LIMITED FINANCIAL RECOVERY FOR EMPLOYEES WHEN EMPLOYER DOESN’T COMPLY. WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS LAW. THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE ENFORCEMENT SECTION THAT ALLOWS THE DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS TO DETERMINE WHETHER ANY SORT OF PENALTIES, CIVIL PENALTIES THAT WOULD BE PAID TO THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY BE PAID TO THE WORKER. HERE WE DON’T HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE WORKERS AREN’T GETTING PREMIUM PAY OR AREN’T GETTING WAGES. IT IS JUST A MATTER OF BUT DID THE EMPLOYER FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS LAW? DID THEY GIVE THE GUESTS THE NOTICE? DID THEY SEPARATE THE WORKER FROM THE SITUATION OF MISCONDUCT? SO IN THIS SITUATION, IF THE DIRECTOR DECIDES THAT PENALTIES ARE IN ORDER, THOSE COULD BE DIRECTED TO THE WORKER AND ALSO CAN BE SPLIT PENALTIES TO THE CITY AND TO THE WORKER. SOME FINES WERE ADDED TO REFLECT SOME OF THE NEW REQUIREMENTS IN THIS VERSION. THE LAST, THERE IS AN ACCOUNT ESTABLISHED THAT WOULD USE PENALTIES AND FINES PAYABLE TO THE CITY TO DEFRAY ANY AGENCY COST FOR PROVIDING THE SUPPORT ADVOCATE FOR >>RECOGNIZING THAT IS, IT MIGHT NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO WHOLLY PAY FOR SUPPORT ADVOCATE BUT TO DEFER THE COST. >>COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM YOU GIVEN THE OVERSIGHT OF CIVIL RIGHTS ? >>THANK YOU. BUT NO, I AM GOOD. >>COUNCIL MEMBERS? AN ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THESE PIECES? >>THE ENFORCEMENT IS AROUND THE ENFORCEMENT OF ACTIONS TO PROTECT THE WORKERS AS CONTRASTED? I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE FURTHER FLUSHING OUT ABOUT WHAT WE THINK WE ARE ENFORCING. >>SO IF A WORKER COMES TO THE OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS WITH A COMPLAINT OF VIOLATION OF THIS LAW, IT WOULD BE ALONG THE LINES OF I REPORTED TO MANAGEMENT THAT THIS TERRIBLE THING HAPPENED IN A GUEST ROOM. AND THEY DIDN’T DO WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY DIDN’T GIVE THE GUEST THE NOTICE OF DISCONTINUATION OF SERVICE. THEY FAILED TO DISCONTINUE THOSE SERVICES. THEY DIDN’T TAKE ME OUT OF THAT WORK ENVIRONMENT, THEY DIDN’T GIVE ME MY NOTICE OF RIGHTS. THEY DIDN’T GIVE BE PAID TIME TO CONSULT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT OR MY ADVOCATE. THAT IS WHAT THE PLOY HE COULD SAY TO OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS AND OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS WOULD DETERMINE IF THERE WAS EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THOSE ALLEGATIONS. >>SO COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, I WANT TO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING WORK TO WORK THIS DRAFT AT THE TABLE. AND YOUR THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS OF THE LEGISLATION OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS. THE BASE LEGISLATION THAT KARINA JUST WALKED THROUGH HAS BEEN AMENDED TO REFLECT MANY OF THE CONCERNS AND MANY SUGGESTIONS YOU HAD. AT THIS POINT, ARE THERE AMENDMENTS TO THIS VERSION? >>I SHOULD ASK OUR COLLEAGUES. ARE THERE AMENDMENTS TO THE AMENDED VERSION THAT KARINA JUST WALKED THROUGH THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO POTENTIALLY HIGHLIGHT? >>OKAY. >>I THINK I HAVE BROUGHT UP MOST OF MY CONCERNS. I HAVE PREPARED LANGUAGE. WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT. >>>>I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE DO LIKE WE DID WITH THE PREVIOUS BILL. THAT WE ONLY VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE. BOAT TO SUBSTITUTE WITH THE SUBSTITUTE AND NOT VOTE ON MOVING IT OUT. >>I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WELL TAKEN. AND IN LINE WITH OUR GOAL TO BRING ALL OF THESE ITEMS BACK ON SEPTEMBER 5. I REALLY LIKE THE APPROACH THAT CENTRAL STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER TO INCORPORATE ANY OF YOUR IDEAS INTO ONE DRAFT. IT WAS EASY FOR US AND I THINK DIFFICULT FOR YOU ALL. TO PULL THESE IDEAS ALTOGETHER. BUT IT HELPS US TO REALLY SEE HOW THES ELEMENTS GO TOGETHER. WITH THE VARIOUS SUGGESTIONS IN ONE AMENDED DRAFT. I AM REFERRING TO IT AS A STRIKER. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HERBOLD. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE KING COUNTY COALITION FOR VICTIMS ADVOCATES. I AM NOT SURE THAT I HAVE THE ACRONYM RIGHT. >>SEXUAL ASSAULT RESOURCES COALITION. >>THAT IS THE CASE ARE AS WELL. SO WE WILL WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS TO SEE IF THERE’S ANY ADDITIONAL EDITS. WE ALREADY HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED AND THANKED ACLU FOR THEIR INITIAL FEEDBACK THIS MORNING. THAT IS JUST THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL BEGIN INCORPORATING ADDITIONAL IDEAS FROM THEM AS WELL PRIOR TO THE SEPTEMBER 5 DATE. I’M SURE THERE IS OTHER FEEDBACK FROM OUR FOLKS FROM THE HOTEL INDUSTRY AND FOLKS FROM THE HOTEL WORKER ADVOCATES SIDE THAT WILL WANT TO GIVE US FEEDBACK AS WELL. BUT IN LIGHT OF THAT, IN ORDER TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WE HAVE INCLUDED MANY OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS TO DATE, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SUBSTITUTE COUNSEL BILL 119 557 WITH AMENDMENT, WHAT ARE WE CALLING THIS KARINA? >>D2. >>AS DESCRIBED BY CENTRAL STUFF. I WOULD MOVE TO DO THAT. >>IS THERE A SECOND TO MOVE? TO AMEND? >>ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION? >>I WILL ABSTAIN FOR THE SAME REASONS I MENTIONED EARLIER. I REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE SOME OF THE THINGS BUT I APPRECIATE HOW MUCH FURTHER WE ARE AT THE END OF THE THREE HOURS THAN WE WERE AT 9:00. >>EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. >>ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUBSTITUTING COUNSEL BILL 119557 WITH AMENDMENT D2 PLEASE VOTE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NONE. ABSTENTIONS ONE. THE VOTE IS IN FAVOR AND ONE ABSTENTION. 2 SUBSTITUTE. TO COUNSEL BILL 119557, SUBSTITUTE IT WITH D2. WE WILL KEEP IT IN COMMITTEE AND BRING ALL FOUR PARTS BACK TO COMMITTEE ON THE SEPTEMBER 5 AND WITH THAT, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. AND WE WANT TO THANK OUR CENTRAL STAFF FOR YOUR INTENSE WORK ON THIS. I WANT TO THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER GONZALEZ AND HER OFFICE AS WELL. FOR THEIR COSPONSORSHIP OF THIS. THEY WILL WORK WITH US. ALL OF YOU FOR IDENTIFYING AREAS ISSUES AND AMENDMENTS TO CONSIDER. WE WILL KEEP THIS, THESE ITEMS, IN COMMITTEE FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION ON SEPTEMBER 5. COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, YOU ARE FREE TO GO IF YOU WOULD LIKE. I DID OFFER IF THERE WAS ONE OR TWO MORE PEOPLE WHO CAME LATE TO WANTED TO TESTIFY, KEEP IT OPEN. IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TESTIFY, YOU ARE WELCOME TO LINE UP, BUT FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC’S AWARENESS, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER 5 AT 9 AM. WE WILL REALLY FOCUS ON HOTEL WORKER LEGISLATION. WE HAVE ONE REPORT FROM SEATTLE CITY LIGHT IN THE MORNING THAT WE HAVE TO DO FROM THE BAKER TILLY REPORT. FOLKS ARE COMING UP FROM SAN FRANCISCO WHICH IS GREAT. WE WILL GET RIGHT INTO THE HEART OF THIS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO DID WANT TO TESTIFY? SEEING NO HANDS AND NO ONE RUNNING UP, INC. YOU ALL FOR STAYING WITH US TODAY. FOR YOUR WORK. OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS ON THIS LEGISLATION. CENTRAL STUFF, THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK AND COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU FOR COOKING FOR US TODAY. >>THANK YOU.